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Sahyadri Industries (12-05-2024)
The company got a recent patent in “Multi-Layered Breathable Prefabricated Precast Wall panels and Structure” – any visibility on contribution to Topline in non-asbestos category ?
waiting for the concall. source is LinkedIn of MD Sayten Patel
Disc – Invested
Radiant Cash Management Services – Asset Light Play On Cash Logistics (12-05-2024)
To understand the prospects of Indian cash management companies, it might be useful to look at how similar companies have performed in other markets. One parallel example that may be useful is that of an Australian cash logistics company, Armaguard, which is currently fighting to stave off bankruptcy and is negotiating a rescue plan with its potential investors.
The reasons why Armaguard got into trouble in the first place bear some similarities with Indian CMS companies like Radiant. Despite being in an oligopolistic market, a consolidated customer base consisting of banks and large retailers led to price wars between the two largest players in the market, Armaguard and Prosegur. Radiant too has indicated in its concalls that it has been facing pricing pressure from its customers while renewing contracts.In 2022, Armaguard and Prosegur merged but that did not help improve the prospects of the combined entity much due to a faulty business model where the pricing was based on volume of cash handled, which has been declining, while the cost structure is fixed leading to deteriorating unit economics. Radiant too has indicated an increase in the share of volume based revenue model from a fixed price one earlier.
There seems to be a misconception that the cash in circulation (CIC) will not decline as a percentage of GDP in India going forward. While it is true that CIC to GDP ratio has actually gone up since demonetisation, the reasons for this paradox need to be understood better. This working paper from the RBI outlines these.
Reserve Bank of India – Database.
The paper suggests that the recent anomalous growth in CIC-to-GDP ratio was primarily on account of COVID-19 pandemic where household preferred hoarding cash as a hedge against uncertainty arising out of the pandemic. As the effects of the pandemic recede, CIC-to-GDP ratio has started falling again and if this trend is likely to continue in the future then it may not augur well for CMS companies like Radiant who will be forced to fight for increasing their market share of a declining total addressable market (TAM).
Polycab India ~ Connection Zindagi Ka – W&C, FMEG and EPC Player (12-05-2024)
Polycab posted blockbuster Q4-2024 results on 10th May. The company reported 18039 crores of topline and 1803 crores of PAT for full year 2024; the topline was 28% and PAT was 41% higher compared to previous year. For the Q4-2024, topline was 5592 (29% yoy growth) crores and PAT was 553 crores (29% yoy growth). Following are some key call outs & observations from the earnings call
1- The Company is going to achieve the project LEAP topline target of 20K crores ahead of FY2026. The company would come up with a new guidance for the medium term in next few quarters.
2- While the Copper and Aluminium prices have gone up, the company believes that it has robust processes/mechanism in place to protect its margins and so does not see it impacting the profitability.
3- The cables and wires business is growing at a much faster clip – north of 30%. Cables are growing at high thirties and wires at low thirties. The company believes that it has gained the market share from other players and now it has 25% odd share compared to 23% odd a year ago.
4- The demand scenario for the cables and wires is robust, and company believes that with huge impetus from government on Infra it would remain so over the next few years.
5- FMEG continues to be lacklustre. While there is yoy growth in topline, it has come on low base. Also there were couple of one-time expenses which has impacted the profitability of this arm.
6- Polycab is actively working on fixing the identified gaps in FMEG, and expects things to improve in next 2-3 quarters. More focus on Switchgears where margins are better.
7- Exports grew fine except for US where the company is changing the mode of business to distributor oriented (as it is in India). This will make the growth in export look modest for the current year. Expect that all other countries (79 in number) will make up for the moderation brought from US in next couple of years.
8- NOT A SINGLE question asked by analysts on the IT raid. The promoter just said in the beginning that they have been providing all info to the IT department and they do not believe that there would be any material impact.
9- The overall EBITDA margin for the business would be in 12-13% range. For EPC it would be in high single digits.
10- Capex of roughly 1000-1200 crores every year over the next 2-3 years.
11- Polycab is the undisputed leader in cables and wires in India from Sales, growth and profitability point of views. It is far ahead of KEI and Havells in this segment. The tone in the earnings call was upbeat – the management gave enough pointers which leads one to expect the growth momentum to continue – revision in LEAP target, talking about public and private spend on Infra (Renewable – 500 GW, Underground cabling, spends on highways and railways etc.)
12- I expect Polycab to achieve 20% topline growth in FY 2024-25. There are multiple reasons behind this optimism – first, many avenues of growth from Infra push from the government resulting in huge demand for cables and wires. Second, Polycab was operating at 75% odd capacity in this year and so there is capacity available for further growth. Third, the company has demonstrated best in class execution over the years and it is reasonable to believe that it will be able to execute well soon too.
13- With 20% topline growth, and roughly 13 – 13.5% EBITDA and 10% PAT margin, the company should post 2165 crores of profit for FY 2024-25. This will result in EPS of roughly 142. The current market price is discounting this roughly 43 times. I will let all of you do the comparison with KEI and Havells.
14- I request my fellow investors to process the corporate presentation (this is different from earnings presentation) of Polycab. It has plenty of insights for cables and wires business and in general for Power (Renewables, Transmission and Distribution and many more).
I am small retail investor who knows very little. I go wrong with my interpretations and understandings very often. Thank you for reading.
Krishna
Low Volatility Stocks (12-05-2024)
Please wait for my detailed post on this later.
The SME portfolio (12-05-2024)
All SME stocks are exorbitantly priced as they are easy to manipulate. Definitely there are some good stocks with quality management, but they are priced at astronomical level and many times costlier to some quality mainboard stocks. So buying these stocks is not investment but pure speculation. Some stocks like Basilic, Krishca etc are good but one has to observe them in downtrend to know the strength of promoters. If one invests hastily without proper studies, one may regret later. None the less, if one is convinced, few limited bets can be taken.
This is my opinion and I may be wrong.
Microcap momentum portfolio (12-05-2024)
Thank you so much Sir. I was reworking again in the morning and didn’t get 100% match in order / ranking. Will check again with the latest file as this helps a lot to spot the difference.
Microcap momentum portfolio (12-05-2024)
Please find below link with the latest updates.
Low Volatility Stocks (12-05-2024)
Thank you for your explanation.
Read a little about ATR. How can we use ATR to compare across stocks? ATR is expressed as a number (not %) and hence a stock with lower stock price will have a lower ATR while a stock with higher price will have higher ATR.
Gandhar Oil Refinery (12-05-2024)
Does anyone have a view on Gandhar Oil.
Their white oil business seems to have good growth potential and there are few producers of white oil in the market. They have big FMCGs as their clientele and seems to have a focused strategy to grow the business.