Good points. Because of stupidity in real estate they are suffering. i have been attending calls from last 4 years. The management looked so confident and transparent that we thought piramals will take all the value from real estate but whole industry collapsed. They collapsed with it. Not only realestate all the lending they did was bad including corporate lending to solar parks etc in Adhrapradesh.
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Addictive Learning Technology limited (LAWSIKHO) (09-05-2024)
Solid Results
H2FY24 vs H2FY23:
Rev at 35cr vs 16cr, H1 at 31cr
PBT at 5.3cr vs loss, H1 at 5.1cr
FY24 PBT at 10.5cr vs 3.2cr
PAT at 7.2cr vs 2.4cr
OCF at 21cr vs 1.4cr
They still have 49 cr that they have raised in Ipo. Hyper growth will come in upcoming few years.
They have taking 10% comission as well. It will direct add to bottom line. Bottomline will increase more than sales.
Waiting for Inv Presentation if company uploads.
Aptus Value Housing : Is valuation justified or just another HFC? (09-05-2024)
Newly listed Indian shelter finance also growing ver well. But it’s trading at less valuation compare to Aavas, Home first and Aptus.
Why Aptus are getting high valuation and all? How we should decide what valuation we can give as all these companies want to grow 25-35%
Manappuram Finance (09-05-2024)
Knee jerk reaction by market
Post rbi news
I feel May be tiny effect will be there as those need only cash will go to non organised sector
Good opportunity for both short term and long term investors
Muthoot Finance, Manappuram Finance Fall After Receiving An RBI Advisory On Cash Disbursals
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Ugro Capital – Opportunity To Invest in a Fintech-like Company Below Book Value (09-05-2024)
Hi Gaurav
Thanks for sharing this information … I did not fully understand the implication of this maybe as a beginner investor… can you please share in slight detail why has book value increased and what implications it might have on potential valuation / share price of the company ?
BSE (Bombay Stock Exchange)- Bet on Financialization? (09-05-2024)
My notes based on BSE Q4 FY24 Concall:
- BSE is gaining market share in derivatives segment, however, profitibility is miniscule in this segment because
a) They are charging less compared to NSE to lure customers. However, recently they have inicreased charges significantly comparabe to NSE.
b) NSE Clearing Corporation is charging BSE heavily on derivative trades.
c) Recent SEBI order on calculating regulatory fees based on notional turnover, will eat away lot of profitibility.
Derivatives turnaround has raised investors expecations multifold from BSE, and that’s visible in BSE price performance during last one year. I think BSE will have to live upto investor’s expectations to justify current price.
Yes, there is a possibility that BSE may compete with NSE in derivatives in future, but that’s a big question mark.
- Overall BSE profitibility is running all time high, due to huge capital market tailwind. Transaction revenues have increased a lot due to on going bull run.
Again, BSE has rewarded shareholders with rise in profits, but I think, the increase in profitibility is not structural, due to cyclical nature of the capital markets business.
- STAR MF also has done pretty well in terms of number of transactions and revenues, but to ME, it is not a product that commands pricing power. Pricing power rests in the hands of mutual funds, who continue to reduce the transaction charges as volume at SATR MF grow.
While AUM of Mutual Funds collectively have grown many times in last few years, BSE STAR MF is far behind in revenue growth, when compared to AUM rise of Mutual Funds.
- BSE has not increased dividend for FY24, despite
a) Increase in profits
b) Sale of CDSL Stake
c) No need of growth capital and
d) Sitting on tons of cash
I failed to understand management rational behind the same during the concall. However, for most of the investors it’s a irrelvant topic as share price is running all time high.
Summarizing, Capital market tailwinds has increased profitibility and share price performance of BSE. To ME, Underlying business is good, but share price performance is running ahead of fundamentals. Other investors may have opposite views and no body needs to agree with me. Take your own judgement.
Disclosure – Invested. Amature investor , not a SEBI registered analyst
HDFC Bank- we understand your world (09-05-2024)
My notes on HDFC Bank based on my limited understanding of lending idustry:
Positives:
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History of impeccable credit quality across multiple credit cycles. HDFC Bank has remained the best credit underwriter for more than two decades. Credit quality may continue to remain impeccable in the future. This is my assumption
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Growth – Credit demand will continue to grow in the future, and only a few well managed banks will be able to take advantage of this tailwind in the future. All the profits can be deployed back to grow the business, creating a compounding machine.
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Public Sector Banks – Even today, PSB’s have large chunk of deposits with them and the trend of business migration from PSB’s to Private banks will continue to work for a long time in future.
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Cost of funds of large private banks is less than 5%. This is a huge advantage over other banks and financial institutions and extremely difficult to replicate.
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Risk Taking – Because the cost of funds is low for banks, they do not need to chase high yields for risky lending. NIM of 4% is good enough to generate enough returns for them.
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Regulatory Barrier – Banking is a regulated business with huge entry barriers. It’s extremely difficult to get a banking license from RBI.
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Scale gives big private banks huge advantages. Their operational cost reduces a lot due to scale.
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Consolidated industry – Though lending is a commodity business, the industry is consolidated with top 4 private banking players taking away huge market share.
Other positives :
- Reasonable valuation – After many years it is available at 2.5x book and 15 times earnings, cheapest in its history. It comes with HDFC AMC and Insurance business embedded inside, which provides further valuation comfort.
- Depressed Earnings – It currently has high cost of debt due to merger with HDFC. Cost of debt may decrease over time. NIM’s that are currently at 3.5% may inch up 4%+ as merger stabilizes. Profits may increase over time, even without growth in next couple of years.
Negatives:
- Size – It’s the largest market cap company , how much can it grow? Isn’t the company already too big to grow?
- Black Swan Event – The first industry to hit in a black swan event is lending and HDFC will have to take its share when negative events unfold. However, past shows that though during black swan events (Global Financial crisis, Covid etc), HDFC stock did suffer, but business/ credit quality was never a issue.
- Regulatory Axe – Business is highly sensitive to regulatory actions. Recent reference – Kotak being asked not to onboard new customers by RBI
- Nature of business – Lending in itself is extremely difficult business where profits of last many years can be wiped out in a single year. Quality of lending book is always opaque topic.
Past fundamental performance of HDFC may not be indication of the future, and my entire thesis rests on the past of HDFC.
Disclosure – Invested. I may sell anytime without informing the forum. I am a amature investor, not a SEBI Registered analyst.
CMS Info Systems Ltd (09-05-2024)
Cash is here to stay in India, irrespective of what ever the advanced digital we go. We don’t data points to prove it . I will give you a layman perspective.
I purchased a land in Hyd 6 months back. The price of the land was Rs 75 lakh but it was registered only for $35 Lakhs. We had paid balance of 40 Lakhs in cash. This kind of situation is not going to change in India. India still accounts for large number of black money transactions and cash is always a king.
Invested at current level and I’m a long term investor.
BBB rated Muthoot Mercantile Ltd (09-05-2024)
The risk, particularly in buying a single bond, and for 1 year, to earn good returns is more, compared to buying a debt fund which holds many bonds. Even with a debt fund, there is a chance of losing some return due to a credit rating downgrade. And here, it is already at BBB, hence the 10.6% return. For a tenure of 1 year, it is better to go with a simple FD, despite the lower returns.
Angel One: Metamorphosis into a Fintech? (Previously Angel Broking) (09-05-2024)
Quite staggering numbers really. While good for exchanges and brokers, the trend might be worrisome for regulators.
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