Why start a new thread when we already have one ?Tube Investments Ltd ~ Diversified Engineering Company – #64 by Arka
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Hitesh portfolio (05-02-2024)
Thank you so much Hitesh Sir.
But Sir good money is made these days through momentum investing. PSUs are also performing like anything, so is it advisable to go for momentum investing in stocks which are in the focus areas of the government.
Regards.
Walchandnagar Industries | Return of a Golden Era (05-02-2024)
Any “turnaround” opportunity merits discussion of the past to understand the scope of the turnaround. What is it turning around from? What went wrong? Why do we think it will do better? Is it because of change in management or tailwinds or fresh capital or some product revamp or something else? Discussing the past of a company in a turnaround investment thesis is essential for gaining insights, learning from past mistakes and setting realistic expectations.
How did you arrive at the “10-15kcrs marketcap” number?
If management execution was not good, then how can we expect them to do better? Will fresh capital and tailwinds make the management better? Or, do they need a new management?
For example,how did the management handle the labor strikes? Despite crores of funding and industry tailwinds, will the company will keep making losses if the labor strikes continue? What is the management doing to prevent future labour strikes?
Of course, the future potential needs to be discussed. An all encompassing discussion must involve everything in the company including its past failure, current tailwinds, future potential, etc.
All counter arguments are equally, if not more, important than positive reinforcements. I would be glad to know every opinion or idea on the hypothesis – both the positives and the negatives.
Hitesh portfolio (05-02-2024)
I don’t exactly get your question, but I guess it is to do with folks highlighting outstanding high conviction ideas on their posts on VP.
The same dictum as mentioned before holds true again. This is a self help forum and not a place where spoon feeding should be done.
Idea can be shared by anyone, but we as investors have to do our own homework and develop our own conviction and then only take a call. If you go through a lot of successful ideas over past few years, the idea initiator has started off providing crisp investing logic in his/her write up. There are even follow up posts highlighting developments/updates/results in the company. After that it is up to us to take it forward.
Hi-Green Carbon Ltd – Play on Renewable energy endeavoring wealth from waste (04-02-2024)
Hi, thanks for the thread! Very interesting company.
I have two queries if someone could guide:
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The revenue contribution of the recovered Carbon Black is just 22% whereas Fuel Oil is 46% and Sodium Silicate Glass is 31% (taken from the initial post by @sameernics) whereas the company narrative is just around recovered Carbon Black. Is there some guidance where the revenue proportion of rCB will increase as compared to the rest? If not, is it a cause of worry or deeper inspection?
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Looking at their Half Yearly Revenue, we see it has remained constant for Sep ’23 (33 cr) as compared to Mar ’23 (34 cr) and has dropped from Sep ’24 (44 cr).
Do we know of any reasons for this, especially since the company says these are commodity products which are easily sellable and their factory is working at a 66% annual capacity utilisation (16558.20 MT/24000 MT) so I am not able to understand if it was demand led or supply led reduction Y-o-Y?
Thanks!
Hitesh portfolio (04-02-2024)
Thank you Hitesh bhai and +1000 to what you shared.
“We at VP are lucky that there are a lot of noble hearted folks who share their research and that too at an early stage of a stock’s journey. That is the time for us to buckle up and do full research to either accept or reject the idea.”
A lot of people including me may very well miss out on these important updates.
So when you notice a moment like this and your convinced and investing in the idea
When you share your knowledge with the wider audience, how can you make sure a critical, P0, rare opportunity in your personal opinion is recognised by the audience in the same spirit versus other updates.
I’m sure there are a few and select times when as an investor you’d feel that this is one of those rare once in a decade 5 years etc opportunity and the odds are in your favour to allocate a sizeable portion.
How can you ensure that these stand out, a hashtag, a special call-out?
Would love your thoughts and feedback on this suggestion and request Hitesh bhai.
I know a lot of people follow and deeply value Hitesh bhai, if you also face this issue and beleive this is a good idea please +1 to the idea and add your inputs so that Hitesh bhai can look into it.
Thank you
Tube invest india ltd (04-02-2024)
which has been discontinued?
Hi-Green Carbon Ltd – Play on Renewable energy endeavoring wealth from waste (04-02-2024)
hi,
to add to this, as per the company, to set up a similar plant overseas in USA / Europe will cost 2-2.5x. Their cost of operations and therefore cost of end products would be that much higher, and conversely, their ROE/ROCEs and payback periods would be that much lesser.
Regarding an Indian company setting up this plant, it is very much possible. To some extent, the company currently has the advantage of low cost of plant and machinery, which is developed in house. But whether any other company can also do the same? Yes, its possible. Will they also take 5-7 years to develop the process efficiency? Maybe they may be able to do it faster. We need to monitor this and find answers.
rCB is used as a part substitute in making VCB, which continues to remain a crude derived product. Will it make business sense for a tyre manufacturer to make VCB? We only have Balkrishna Tyre’s case study. None of the other tyre manufacturers have gone into this backward integration.
Senco Gold: Upcoming gold story! (04-02-2024)
Company has received an Order on February 3, 2024, from The Principal Commissioner, CGST & CX, Kolkata North Commissionerate bearing a demand of excise duty amounting to 1,59,31, 470/- (Rupees One crore Fifty Nine Lakhs, Thirty One Thousand, Four Hundred and Seventy Only) plus interest at applicable rate and a penalty of Rs. 8,95,76,460/- (Rupees Eight Crore Ninety five Lakhs Seventy Six Thousand Four Hundred Sixty Only). The said demand pertains to inappropriate availment of CENVAT credit during the Financial Year 2016-17.
Company is in the process of preferring an appeal against the said Order.