“Other un-allocable (income)- net of un-allocable expenditure” – snap you have posted you will get details about the Un-Allocable profit item in earning release file page number 6 footnote. I have captured the same line item in below snap at consolidated level and check the note , its saying about ITC ESOP charge. But there is more to it . Details you will get at ITC latest annual report page number 201 . Its more sort of Interest company earn for loan and deposits , profit loss on Investment – Finance Cost it pays out – Unallocated Corporate charge. As its segment reporting so corporate level income and expense which can’t put under segment shown in this fashion.
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Skipper Ltd., (Power and Water) a moat in making? (30-01-2024)
@bully how did you apply now? Process?
@Krishna_Kumar can you share the process?
Skipper Ltd., (Power and Water) a moat in making? (30-01-2024)
Yes it is via ASBA process , many times companies make processes tedious so that promotors can buy more
Premier Explosives (30-01-2024)
Thanks…thats really helpful
This is one big bulk reqmt and 40Cr should be just a start. May be a recurring annual reqmt…or rather will certainly be.
Policybazaar – Insurance Online (30-01-2024)
PB Fintech Q3 FY 2024 (concall – rough cut)
Filing: https://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachLive/6f489e31-0009-41a8-8070-2fc00507206d.pdf
- Turned PAT positive. Adjusted EBITDA will keep improving by 200 crores annually
- ESOP cost in Q3 FY 2024 was 65 crores (mentioned in call but it shows 37 crores in filing). ESOP cost is likely to be in 100 to 120 crores range in medium to long-term. Current year is likely to be 330 crores.
- This is a big takeaway: Of the 501 crore additional revenues 9M YoY, 170 crores flown to EBITDA directly.
- Another big takeaway: Analyst asked – Contribution margin in core business is stable at 44%? Is this plateauing? Answer: it will not plateau even 10-years from here. Industry is 7 to 8 lakh crore premium and only 1 lakh is new premium rest is renewal premium. Renewal premium is much more profitable. So contribution margins will continue to improve as company increases share of renewals.
- Health grew higher than Term. Health growth depresses EBITDA margins, in absence of higher growth in health EBITDA margins might have been higher by 2%. Health is 0% contribution margin in first year.
- Health revenue in first year is 20% but underwriting cost is about 80% upfront taken so it depresses margins but very good for long-term.
- I did not understand this fully – Health insurance first year NPV is 2.7x, Motor other – 1.6x and life is 1.2x.
- Credit to slow down due to unsecured lending tightening by lenders (in line with Paytm). Management guides 2-3x of industry loan growth, industry growth is likely to be in 13-16% growth (can’t remember this exactly but broadly in similar lines). However, Yashish Dahiya mentioned I will be disappointed if we grow lower than 40%. In H1 company grew in 40-50% range. H2 may come down to 30-40%. Long-term growth remains intact.
- Credit business is at 8% EBITDA margin while insurance is 14%
- New initiatives (PBpartners and UAE business): broken even in Dec-2023. PBPartners present in 90% of India pincodes
- PBpartners: margins improved significantly due to focus on retail (small) agents business. Retail agents increased by 56%
- Bima Sugam and ONDC risk: welcome competition for overall improvement of insurance coverage of the country.
- On commission on trail basis (on new I-Pru product? – We are selling such product and welcome products which are beneficial and tied to persistency of the insurance.
- Question on TPA (in relation to Bajaj Finserv’s acquisition of TPA): We have 40% stake in visit health (TPA) they are doing wonderful job.
- Management shall come back on: capital allocation, payment aggregator service and strong focus on credit side given opportunity.
- Whats working for health insurance? Ticket size not changed so volume driven. Each of the thing worked – top of the funnel, better customer experience, virtuous cycle working. Karma coming back
quip by Yashish Dahiya. We celebrate claims now instead of new volume. Huge focus on disclosures. Onground teams also helped, explaining better, in-person support. 30 minutes claim support and word of mouth worked. Tech and data to catch fraud.
- POSP – If agent leaves? Its agent’s business. PB gets only fee for usage of tech.
Diclousre: Own the stock. transacted in last 30 days.
Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor and nor a SEBI registered Analyst. The content shared here is only for learning purpose. All the names mentioned here are for example purpose. I may buy more, exit or partly sell the stock/bonds without any prior intimation.
IREDA: Renewable Energy Powerhouse (30-01-2024)
I think more than the rating the issue is the quality of loans they are giving. They are in a very sticky zone and NPAs will be seen only after a few years. At present we are only counting the eggs and hope they get hatched.
SJVN Ltd – Hydroelectric power (30-01-2024)
Thanx LaryWink …Members have already indicated some numbers, though order book numbers keep increasing day by day.
Wanted to add that SJVN was basically a Hydro power producer.
But now since Hydro power is no longer preferred as it is inefficient way of producing power at a river by constructing a dam. The concept of hydropower has been snatched away to form Hydro pump storage system synched with Solar and Wind energy. So both NHPC and SJVN have both stopped constructing traditional hydro power stations. Both these companies are now bidding for Solar , wind , roof top solar.
Future looks bright , but past /present not so bright. However, bulging orde book gives future earning visibility.So execution is the key which is expected to reflect in financial performance in future.
Discl : Invested @33 level from the time the Green hydrogen thread was initiated. Recently booked some profit to get back my capital and still holding a major chunk.
Not a buy or sell recommendation. please make your own assessment before investing. Stock has run up quite a bit in anticipation of future performance. PSU’s have it’s own pros and cons
Tata Investment Corporation: Unusual discount to NAV (30-01-2024)
Book value shouldn’t be applied to measure valuations of holding companies like Tata Investment Corp. Better way to value them is to calculate the market value of their total investments (in both listed and unlisted companies) and then apply say 20% discount to that to derive target market cap of Tata Investment.
I did this calculation before listing of Tata Tech and found the stock to be overvalued which I guess got addressed after bumper listing of Tata Tech. Today’s price move of 20% could be something to do with valuation trigger in of one of their unlisted companies that may not be a common knowledge.
AGI Greenpac- on the cusp of growth? (30-01-2024)
And banks cannot keep NPAs in their books for years and years…and how can someone prevent banks from selling their NPA loans to ARCs?
Infact banks will be doing injustice to their shareholders if they continue to keep rotten NPAs in their books.
If AGI’s plan is not approved by SC (after due bidding and AGI quoting maximum and their plan approved by COC. Further L2 bidder’s appeal quashed by NCLT and NCLAT) it will be sad day and HNG may die slow death.
Tata Technologies (30-01-2024)
Their operating margins at 20% are much lower compared to more broad-based IT players (e.g. HCL, LTTS etc) across market caps.
On the other hand margins of Tata Elxi, a similar player from Tata house, are 30%. Cash flow generation of Tata Elxi (e.g. sales/FCF) is also much superior to Tata Tech.
Yet Tata Elxi trades at 59 P/E while the latter at 72. In my view based on current performance and projected growth, Tata Tech shouldn’t be getting anything more than 35-40 P/E. Interestingly stock hasn’t corrected much after a tepid quarterly performance.
I am not invested in either, just an observation.