Great numbers. Last 5 years growth from 51 Cr. PAT to 680 Cr. PAT on a TTM basis.
Seems like the highest-ever EBITDA, PAT, and Revenue in any quarter in NH.
Great numbers. Last 5 years growth from 51 Cr. PAT to 680 Cr. PAT on a TTM basis.
Seems like the highest-ever EBITDA, PAT, and Revenue in any quarter in NH.
Thanks for the reply. I guess there is some confusion and that’s primarily because of its name . Let me clarify further. I am not taking competitive advantage period as an assumption in the above modelling works. This is a calculated field. First of all, there are many names of this period. MM calls it as competitive advantage period but more often refers it as market implied forecast period. His basic premise is that expectations investing starts with what we know, the stock price, and asks whether the expectations for the company’s financial performance implied by the stock price are justified.
Before we discuss it further, let me put here his response to an interview question by Motely Fool:
Q: The book also says, “Analysts typically choose a forecast period that is too short when they perform a discounted cash flow valuation.” Most forecast periods I’ve seen are five to 10 years before they calculate the terminal value. Can you explain how analysts should determine how long the forecast period should be?
A: This is interesting. Most DCF models use an explicit forecast horizon of five years. Some go out 10 years or more, but they tend to be rare. I think the five-year horizon is an outgrowth of the leveraged buyout models used in private equity. Five years may make sense for a private equity firm that has an explicit objective of exiting an investment in about five years. But just because we have five fingers on a hand, or because private equity firms hold investments for five years on average, does not have any relevance for properly modeling the economics of a public company.
The result is that investors have to allocate value in the continuing value estimate, often through using an unrealistic calculation of growth in perpetuity or multiples of earnings before taxes, depreciation, and amortization. The goal of a model is to represent reality, and this approach fails in that objective.
You determine the market-implied forecast period by using consensus estimates for free cash flow growth plus an appropriate continuing value, an estimate of the cost of capital, and seeing how many years are necessary to solve for today’s stock price. For example, in the case study we did on Domino’s Pizza we found that the market-implied forecast period was eight years.
Now if you read above answer by MM, it becomes clearer. In nutshell, this is not the period in which they will lose or maintain its competitive advantage, rather this is the number of years which the current stock price assumes that the company will have ROIC higher than WACC i.e. will have a period with competitive advantage. This is the period which an investor should project in future to do DCF calculations and beyond that period, terminal value calculations. Hope it’s clear.
Now, coming to your statement that if this period is 25 years or more, every company will be undervalued. Here is the proof why this isn’t the case.
Let’s take the example of Asian Paints. No one can argue that this company shouldn’t have competitive advantage for many years to come. However, the current stock price already has assumed this or rather it’s already factored in the price.
Below are the details of Asian Paints:
For more details, I would highly suggest you read his book, watch his YT videos and / or read his interviews. It will be super clear.
What is top line growth guidance in next 2-3 years for creative newtech ltd by promoter.
we can see the data related to Credit Card spending, Debit Card spending, ATM infra, and POS machines and see how many ATMs were installed(roughly means the number of branches for now as the bank is opening a lot of branches), POS machines to know about how much MDR we can capture on acquiring side, Credit Card outstanding to see how many cards were issued…
Carysil
Target of 1000 Crore revenue by FY25
Current revenue ~600 Crore
EBIDTA margins of 20%
Reference: Thanks to @modiankush
Extremely good results posted in Q2 2024
Amazing EPS growth is shown.
As said by a very senior and very respected member of the forum, don’t make members click and see a sheet to know about things, if you are seeking views from them. You can post your rationale instead of a sheet.
You have given the context of your beginning and the current philosophy, for someone who can post this, posting the rationale is also the same.
If you take competitive advantage period as 25 years, every company is undervalued. No one can foresee competitive advantages lasting that long. Better to take 3-5 year view in most cases and weigh how much the current value is far off from some reasonable intrinsic value and then play on probabilities.
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