Agree with you, on the top of this:
- Company’s model can be replicated, weak moat.
- Did scuttlebutt, n evidence of chocolate wrapper being negotiated with any of food MNCs
Disc.: Invested from lower levels, planning to trim position.
Agree with you, on the top of this:
Disc.: Invested from lower levels, planning to trim position.
As I think of limiting the downside I believe a portofolio of following cos that I’m tracking would offer limited downside as per my estimates
PF for limited downside risk: HDFC Bank, Sharda Cropchem, Ultramarine pigments, Deepak Fertilizer, PDS ltd, SRF/Kama Holding, Gujarat Fluorochem, Goldiam International, Cigniti, SIS
In addition to this I expect reasonable upside also in these cos if market performs well
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Sale /transfer of Tarapur API facility
@StageInvesting – Hi. Please share your updated views on Greenpanel Industries if any. Thank you
Saw this company go from 11 rupees to 730 and sold it in March just before they announced the split. Thinking about getting back in.
Wherelse will we buy it from? everything from your laptop, phone, electronics, all have the “Manufactured/Assembled in China” tag. Even your medicines have chinese origin as we import a large number of APIs from China.
The reason for me to write about my PF is to note what all changes I’m making in my PF and how my thesis plays out. It would be good for me to go through this topic every few months.
In addition to this, I believe this would improve by objective thinking. For example, after summaizing my PF with current weightage of each co in my PF, I got following insights
Thanks everyone for the reply.
@rks00 No, I am not taking about management guidance. I purely talk about the illustration
I did not say math is wrong. The point I raised initially is why they are including 3200 cr. spread of the bank’s portion as their income. How you can claim the interest portion of someone else’s money
To elaborate more on this, I was going over the RBI guidelines for the co-lending.
If you see the attached pic which I took from the RBI website and also what I heard in Indiabulls concall, co-lending interest rate is the blended rate of both bank and NBFC. The main motive of this approach is to lower the cost of credit. But as per the illustration stated by UGRO, in both cases(Co-lending and regular mode of lending) they are charging 14.5%. The ultimate borrower does not have any benefit from this.
if I go by the logic which RBI mentioned, interest rate of co-lended loan should be 11.3%
I understand companies has some leeway to change the structure of this transaction, but if you read the last two lines of the attached pic, it is clearly mentioned that the benefit of low cost funds of banks should be passed on to the ultimate borrower. As per the illustration, this is not happening and borrower is charged at same rate.
And if you think from other perspective, Co-lending is much like two parties(nbfc and bank) is coming together to lend money to borrower. How one party(NBFC) claims the interest component on the other party’s proportion of the loan(Bank). In securitization this is possible, since loans are securitized at a lower rate and the excess spread can be considered for loss provision and any excess will be passed back to originator. In co-lending, NBFC has nothing do with the 80% of banks contribution, no risk sharing, no loss enhancement. In indiabulls, management mentioned same, two parties have their own interest rate and borrower is charged with blended rate and NBFC get 100% processing fee charged to borrower and they also charge bank some percentage every year as a servicing fee.
I understand the benefits, parties involved and roles in co-lending. But I in here I am trying to understand only the technicality on how this is structured
Disclosure: Neither owning nor tracking. Neither bullish or bearish. Just found this illustration in presentation, so trying to understand the co-lending, as my other portfolio companies do some co-lending
good mgmt interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs9is_WQoIg
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