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Cupid Ltd – Helping the world play safe! (15-09-2023)
Eco Recycling Limited (Ecoreco (15-09-2023)
There is another similar business in this space is VA wabag Like water treatment etc you may like to keep on your radar. I invested @250 and recently exited on double around @500…I had some better opportunity to invest. They are boring and profitable businesses also limited players in this space.
Krishca Ltd : A SME offering steel strapping Solution (15-09-2023)
Krishca today investor meeting notes:
1/ Co has won multiple packing contracts in last 2 weeks. Expects 10-15 crs contribution from packing contracts in FY24. Already hired an experienced industry leader to head packing contracts business. Packing contracts will have same margins as strappings
2/ Upcoming strapping capex is funded by internal accruals. They may look for preferrential equity raise to fund Dubai capex in future
3/ Guiding for 40% growth on conservative basis for next 2 years
4/ Promoter clarified that they gave pre ipo stake at cheaper valuation to a strategic investor. This makes sense as the growth in revenues were 4x within an year (18cr to 72cr) once the investor got on board
5/ promoter mentioned that their business is niche and any new player will take atleast 2 years to get approvals and quality control from clients
Call was attended by multiple fellow valuepickrs @ayushmit @DEBASHISH @Rahil_Dasani etc
Investing Basics – Feel free to ask the most basic questions (15-09-2023)
Investing is a long term endeavor, so limited capital could be a deterrent, it pulls back. Even if we belong to a particular school of thought, practice a particular style of investing, say value investing, we will have to wait for extended periods of time for our investments to become profitable, and in the meanwhile, if we continue our learning, we may think that we have other opportunities, and we should exit our previous bets, and if those bets are in losses, we will have to book losses and move our capital to new found bets, if we are convinced our new bets will yield more results, and if we don’t want to sell at a loss, we will need more capital for new bets.
If you are a new investor, and have limited capital, you can focus on your profession, climb the ladder, earn more, and in the meanwhile learn and practice with small capital, and as and when your knowledge and experience grow, you can allocate more.
Trading, while can be done with limited capital, is more loss making, because every trade comes with a stop loss, so there will be eve lesser capital if all trades go into losses. And if we don’t want to sell at a loss, then we can lose more. Capital is more important here, than investing, as each trade is independent of the previous trades.
In a sense, investing and trading go hand in hand, they can complement each other, knowledge and experience gained with one will help doing other.
Just some thoughts, I do some of both.
Aayush’s Portfolio (15-09-2023)
Hi everyone!
After recently joining the forum, and soaking info from all sides – I rebalanced my portfolio and would like your insights on it. As a young 22 beaming with passion for deep diving into equity research & technical patterns, my psych rubs on my portfolio with small cap/ midcap dominance and once in a while I dabble in large caps like TVS Motors if the charts get me excited enough ( getting rarer lately ).
I pick shares using a bottom up approach, first ensuring strong fundamentals with revenue growth visibility & margin expansion with capex/expansion plans. Then I time my entry based on technical aspects such as VCP breakout with volumes/ Stage analysis/ EMA 200 support levels. I try to avoid very high PE shares, and below 30-40 levels is my sweet spot which helps me sleep better at night.
Since most of them are small/ mid caps, I prefer to take a small loss and exit before it snowballs into larger ones, and let the winners ride. If the same share forms a better base later on, I re enter. This approach has its own merits and flaws, but seems to have worked for me after a lot of trial and error.
I’d be happy to try other approaches with merit, so feel free to add.
Portfolio : Currently having positions in 10 companies – with a medium-long term outlook. I am trailing most of them with EMA 50 stoploss, and will be actively tracking AGM notes and Quarterly results to see if the mgmt walks the talk, and scale up on further conviction.
Ahluwalia – 13%
Vimta – 13%
TCPL – 9%
ACE – 11%
Usha Martin – 13%
Shivalik Bimetals – 9%
TVS Motors – 7%
HG INFRA – 7%
LINC – 11%
Mazagaon Dock – 7%
Rationale for picks:
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Ahluwalia and HG Infra both had 20%+ revenue guidance with healthy order books, and neutral margin outlook. I am a bit divided in this position, since I read that Infra segment usually faces a slowdown before elections, hence closely watching for exit if support breaks. I genuinely believe this sector is poised for good times, with growing infra & urbanization developments in India.
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ACE is a proxy to the Infra play. Mgmt seemed very excited about demand outlook despite Monsoon season, with very strong commitments on margin expansion and topline doubling in 3 years. Seemed like a no brainer, eager to see capex and volume variables for this quarter.
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Vimta – This is an early May position and honestly I wasn’t very sure about it but the share was at a well tested support with decent fundamentals. Little did I know it would grow itself to become the largest position in my portfolio. Q1 had bullish mgmt comments with plans to double capacity, and 2% margins expansion with revenue target of 500 cr for 2026 ( currently 315 cr ), which further rocketed the share to ATH – trailing this one as I am not sure if there’s much fuel left.
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TVS Motors and Shivalik Bimetals are auto sector plays. TVS might be the only large cap I own right now, it gave a solid base breakout, and fundamentals seemed on right track with 2 wheeler demand rising with rural recovery and expanding margin guidance. It was a tracking position initially, which for scaled up recently when the share seemed to be taking support above 20 EMA.
Shivalik – smart meters – high capex – auto sector tailwinds – EMA 200 – connect the dots. -
LINC was a Pentonic play purely, with recent breakout from downward trend – will need to track this more actively every quarter to see if mgmt plans execute well.
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Usha Martin – I liked the part about increasing margins from premium products and 15-18% revenue growth, the price chart was like a ant climbing a mountain – always like such treks with EMA 20 support.
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TCPL Packaging – was very unsure about it since mgmt had pessimistic tones on fmcg volume growth, but the charts very giving a fresh breakout. Held onto a trailing position and voila! I still fail to get my head around how it went to where it is today.
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Mazagon Dock – Latest entry at cup and handle breakout after a long upmove previously. I missed the initial rally in shipbuilding sector despite tracking it for 1 year. Call it a revenge trade haha but it seems to be playing out well – will trail it as long as it keeps me in trade. Mgmt seems positive about fresh orders potential – will need to track how it plays out though.
That’s all folks! I know it isn’t perfect – and I am just a beginner. I recently exited Mayur Uniquoters as it took out my stop loss, and there are many more mistakes that I did. However, keeping a tracking entry initially helped me to limit my losses and ensure my winners more than cover for the losses.
I am not very hopeful with current valuations, but earnings growth is there – so keeping a trailing stoploss to see where it leads. Feel free to add your own insights/ suggestions on any positions you are interested in – would be happy to learn from your experiences!
Thank you!
Sunteck Realty – Quality Real Estate Company (15-09-2023)
Hi Sai,
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7-8 is the complete monetization timeline not the project launch timeline
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A rising cycle for the next 7 yrs will benefit players who have the projects/JDA/landbank in place. Its also good that beyond 7yrs cycle will turn down and smart developers can deploy cash in accumulating projects for future upturn in cycle.
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You assume zero capital appreciation over the next 7 yrs while the cycle is turning up…a very very conservative 25% appreciation in 7yrs in price can be easily expected (although we know the price appreciation can be a lot higher than that)…in which case future cash flows are 30,000cr
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You ignore any future project acquisitions and as a consequence you ascribe zero terminal value to the company. Past track record of 20 yrs shows management has repeatedly recycled and redeployed cash flows at high IRR( much greater than 18%-20%)
Even if we ignore point no.4 above ( which is wrong as it implies that the company shuts down after 8 yrs becoz it cannot generate new business at desired IRRs of >18% as in the past 2 decades), at current MCap of 6150cr, with same tax rate of 25%, pre-tax cash flow of 30,000cr at same time interval as you assume above, IRR works out to be ~26%…Or in other words, if you use a discount rate of ~26%, you would get the NPV equal to today’s Mcap of 6,150…
26% return!!! ( with zero terminal value assumption !!!)
Given the above, I feel Sunteck is a great bargain…
Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Limited: Is the ship sinking? (15-09-2023)
Recently, the stock of Garden Reach Shipbuilders have had a good enough run-up, tempting everyone to ask whether there’s more to it or is the ship going to sink?
Here are some highlights from the concall, which indicates that although there would be short-term hiccups, the long-term story for the company remains intact:
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The company’s order book as of 30th June 2023 stood at Rs 24,546 crore, which consists of 6 projects. This entire book is expected to be completed by FY27. For a context, its Q1 FY24 revenues stood at Rs 756 crores.
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With respect to the immediate bid pipeline for Q2 FY24, the company expects bids for 3 projects worth Rs 4100 crore, where it feels itself to be a strong contender. Further, RFPs for 3 more projects worth Rs 7500 crore are expected to be online by CY24.
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RFP for one specific project i.e. 8 Next Generation Corvette will come out in the latter half of FY24. That project itself would be worth Rs 36,000 crores. Also, the RFP for next generation destroyer would come out in the next 4-5 years, whose order value alone would be more than a lakh crore.
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The combined shipbuilding program of the Indian Navy and Indian Coast Guard over the next 15 years indicate that they would place orders of more than 150 warships in the coming years.
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As the current order book gets executed, the company has opportunities available in the domestic warship building, export opportunities, ship repair, and diversified products.
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The conventional PAT margins in the shipbuilding industry are between 7.5-8%. The next 3 years being peak revenue years, the company is confident of maintaining these margins.
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In the shipbuilding business, the maximum revenue accrual is when the ship crosses 40% of the construction and reaches 60%.Hence, the revenue accrual is not linear in shipbuilding, and it depends on the type and phase in which the ship is under construction. And currently, ships in one of the company’s projects with unexecuted orders worth Rs 13,000 crores have crossed 40% construction levels.
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The company’s ship repair business is in the nascent stages and forms just 1.5% of its revenues. However, the company is looking to enhance revenues by at least 4x in the next 3-4 years.
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The company’s core focus will be domestic warship building, but it will also foray into building autonomous vehicles and green energy platforms.
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Q1 FY24 results were very good. The margins expanded 30 bps YoY and the company registered its best ever PAT. The company says FY24, FY25 and FY26 will be peak revenue years.
To Summarize:
Orderbook as of Q4 FY23 stood at Rs 25,110 crores, whereas by Q1 FY24, it stood at Rs 24,546 crore. At the end of FY24, the company aims to maintain an order book of Rs 24,000 crore plus.
On concerns of order book getting depleted by FY27, the management guided that Indian Navy and Indian Coast Guard in the next 3 years will come up with RFPs worth over Rs 1 lakh crore, so there will be enough on plate for everyone.
Praveen’s Portfolio (15-09-2023)
Roughly two weeks have passes since my last update. Have made following changes to my PF
Sold: Fino Payments Bank, Ujjivan Financial Services, SJS enterprises
Bought: MCX, PDSL
This is how my PF looks at the moment
Instrument | Avg. cost | LTP | Current % | Net chg. |
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KRSNAA | 419 | 652.7 | 8.1% | 55.66 |
PITTIENG | 299 | 616 | 7.6% | 105.88 |
ANGELONE | 1474 | 1893.55 | 7.2% | 28.42 |
REDTAPE | 149 | 446.85 | 6.9% | 199.06 |
XPROINDIA | 635 | 993.55 | 6.8% | 56.39 |
KERNEX-BE | 274 | 466.7 | 6.3% | 70.3 |
MTARTECH | 1785 | 2602.45 | 5.8% | 45.79 |
CIGNITITEC | 802 | 810.15 | 4.8% | 1 |
KAMAHOLD | 14305 | 15601.65 | 4.6% | 9.07 |
NIITMTS | 228 | 434 | 4.5% | 90.6 |
MANAPPURAM | 131 | 141.7 | 4.4% | 7.85 |
CONFIPET | 88 | 89.9 | 4.2% | 2.49 |
PDSL | 372 | 448.65 | 3.7% | 20.48 |
EQUITASBNK | 64 | 85.65 | 3.5% | 33.24 |
DODLA | 536 | 698.9 | 3.3% | 30.38 |
MOLDTEK | 353 | 340.45 | 2.8% | -3.42 |
MCX | 1819 | 1780.05 | 2.7% | -2.15 |
IGPL | 507 | 533.6 | 2.6% | 5.32 |
SANGHVIMOV | 627 | 706.4 | 2.3% | 12.7 |
VENUSPIPES | 1184 | 1538.5 | 2.0% | 29.98 |
ULTRAMAR | 364 | 407.75 | 1.9% | 12.05 |
SHBCLQ | 572 | 547 | 1.9% | -4.3 |
SHARDACROP | 420 | 440.25 | 1.2% | 4.88 |
DEEPAKFERT | 600 | 637.3 | 1.0% | 6.2 |
WIPRO | 404 | 441.1 | 0.1% | 9.18 |
In addition to above changes, I’ve some qty in existing PF including but not limited to PDSL, Kernex, REDTAPE, XPRO INDIA, Moldtek Tech, Shivalik Bimetal Control, Manappuram, Kamaholding, Ultramarine Pigments
Sold FIno, Ujjivan and SJS as I see better opportunities in the PF and newly added stocks
Bouhgt PDSL: PDSL is one of it’s kind business model. It’s kind of a platform that connects Garment Brands and Retailers to Manufacturers. The collects some percentage of the mecrchandise value as commision which acts as Revenue of the co (Gross margin in the financial statements). The Co. is winning new businesses and scaling up the existing ones. Read post on VP here
Co targets to 18-20k cr sales by FY27 and 5-5.5% Net profit margin. Co, is clocking ROCE of ~40% which will only improve going forward with developed market economy comes out of inflationary pressures. So, expect the co. to maintain same or higher ROCE. Market could be 20-35k cr by FY27 (may be FY28-29, if delay in executions) and offers very good return
MCX: Currently earnings are depressed as the co. is paying abnormally high software charges to 63Moons. With own software expected to deployed soon, the profits of the co may earn ~350cr net profit in FY25. I assign a 35x PE multiple to the co, as it’s growing at more than 25% in FY23-FY25 and a platform business that generates good cash. Expect ~20% cagr returns by FY25 end
Few more things I plan to do:
As I don’t have any Large cap in the PF and Valuations in the small and mid cap are in frothy territory, Plan to allocate some of the PF to HDFC bank, as it’ll give 17-20% kind of returns (even without valuation rerating to historical means) and provides stability to the PF if small/mid caps correct. However I need to sell some of the existing cos in the PF to do this
Other co.s that I’m considering that would limit the downside are Gujarat Fluorochem, Kama Holding
I’m considering HDFC bank as it’s a co that has shown consistent growth and the chances of valuation derating are limited. I’m open to members of VP suggeting other cos that would add cushion to the PF in turbulence
Thanks for reading this post
Views and Opinions welcome
Shankara Build Pro – Building Materials Organised Retail (15-09-2023)
I dont get that , where will the addiitional growth that they are guiding(25-30%) come from as they arent planning to increase retail stores in near futures would it from channel and enterprise along with increasing the average ticket size on the retail front?