You can’t value real estate companies on earnings related metrics, especially if they follow project completion method. ROE, ROCE will never reflect the true picture of these businesses. Look at cash flows, present and future.
Posts in category Value Pickr
Sunteck Realty – Quality Real Estate Company (28-08-2023)
There might be reasons for lower valuation –
Compare it with Phoenix mills, Oberoi – Sunteck has very low ROE, ROCE, OPM, etc.
Steady cashflow (annuity – rental) and balanced growth plan are real positive points for Phoenix mills and Oberoi – If you believe in retail /consumption growth story in India…these companies can do better!
CarTrade Tech – A Multi-Channel Auto Platform (28-08-2023)
I believe that in the backdrop of cash pile in their books, OLX Acquisition is the best bet from available options. OLX Classified is highly profitable. If the company succeeds in reducing the cost of C2B Transactions as they have fully focused on it, it might be a great value addition for Cartrade. However, it will be clear only in next few quarters.
Investing Basics – Feel free to ask the most basic questions (28-08-2023)
If a company presents its industry growth rate in its annual report.
Should we take it at the face value?
Eg From Syngene Annual Report 2023, the growth that they are predicting is in double digit but there are some articles in the web that report it as single digit.
What should be the source of truth and how should we verify it?
P.E. Analytics Ltd (PROPEQUITY) – Another Data Analytics Platform for Real Estate Players (28-08-2023)
Will anyone be attending the AGM today?
DroneAcharya Aerial Innovations – a new age business (28-08-2023)
Thanks dear
Actually I was going through one YouTube video about Reusable Rocket launcher where it says about cost savings of the launcher.
Here is the link https://youtu.be/eLe_592OSAg?feature=shared
If Dronacharya also finds its technology useful in any of the industry it can be a big innovation.
Thanks
Hitesh portfolio (28-08-2023)
My apologies for the same and i agree. Will go through the relevant posts
My portfolio updates and investment journey (28-08-2023)
My rationale on Sandhar Technology (3% allocation, 8% profit): My first buy was in July 2023 at 357 rs. My last transaction (buy) was in August 2023 at ~400 rs.
First time I came across Sandhar was an year back on scientific investing and the logical investor collaborative video on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irrl7f1jeWE&t=1312s. However, I ignored it as I am generally not big on auto ancillaries. Then this company came back on my radar when I was watching a recent SOIC’s (Ishmohit’s) video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PneVPf1L-y4 (14th minute). One thing which really clicked this time was when he mentioned the operating cash flows of the company over 300 crores for FY 23, while market capitalization was around ~2000 crores. So I bought my first tranche by end of July 2023. In Q1 2024, the cash flows were 98 crore. So if I annualize that it gives ~400 crores of cash flow. That is ~17% operating cash flow yield. So, I added aggressively in the August month.
Generally, valuation is not only parameter for me. My further readings changed my mind of this being a traditional auto ancillary. I went through company conference calls, presentation, and annual reports. I liked its products; smart locks, motor controller unit (MCU), DC converter, off board chargers etc. Please note that I don’t have deep knowledge of these products. Only thing is when I was talking to one of my friends on BLDC fans, he talked about MCU as one of the components. Also, little bit of my research on off-board charger shows that it makes EVs lighter, reduces space requirements and much more efficient in charging battery.
Company works with a vision and plan. This is visible in their presentation. One of the snapshots below show the road map on MCU:
Source: Sandhar Investor Presentation for June ended quarter.
Going forward, past two-three years capex is coming in frution and future capex requirements will be very low. Hence, free cash flows will increase subtantially. Two wheeler industry going forward will move from manual locks for 300 to 400 rs to Sandhar’s smart locks of over 2000 rs per vehicle.
Source: Sandhar conference call Q4 FY2023
Though company’s products are EV agnostic, their EV pipeline of products could result in 15k to 30k revenue per vehicle for two wheelers while 50k to 60k for 4-wheelers.
Source: Sandhar conference call Q4 FY2023
Their JVs, which were in losses are breaking even or coming in profits. 2-wheeler industry growth is 2-3% but company grows in 20-25% range. This shows that value of its products per vehicle is increasing. Products seems futuristics as well.
Is management sounding too bullish? lets track and manage…
I Invite the people to comment who have the knowledge on MCU, DC-convertors and Off-board chargers to share their knowledge on Sandhar Tech’s thread – Sandhar Technologies – An emerging market leader – #18 by Souresh_Pal
Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor and nor a SEBI registered Analyst. The content shared here is only for learning purpose. All the names mentioned here are for example and learning purpose. I may buy more, exit or partly sell the stock/bonds without any prior intimation.
Reverse Merger- Sangam Advisors (28-08-2023)
Thanks @sammy11 for those helpful insights.
If someone has on-ground experience in this field, I wanted to know two things:
- What is the competition scenario. This would decide if the 12 to 15% margin will be maintainable in the future.
- Is the cost of 1.25 to 1.5 cr per MW justified. I am unable to understand how Waaree is performing so well on margin front as compared to Sterling Wilson. Could there be any benefit due to the presence of parent group in manufacturing of modules?
Manappuram Finance (28-08-2023)
[#ManappuramFinance] says Kerala High Court quashed Enforcement Case Information Report registered by Enforcement Directorate.