The first step you can take to trim the number of stocks, which i have also done is…first put same sector stocks together like in your case all banking stocks together like IDFC first bank, Federal bank, equitas bank…Once you categorise all stocks in different sectors , then think of restricing stocks under each sector, for example, you might decide you want to restirct to only 2 stocks in bank and may be 2 stocks per sector. Lowest allocation and big losses may not be a right criteria because you may wind up selling all stocks of some sectors. Proper balance among sectors will not be achieved. Then you can think of choosing one from large cap another from midcap, if u want to select 2 stocks per sector.
In short, “There has to be some Method to the Madness”
Posts in category Value Pickr
How to build a concentrated PF (19-08-2023)
Sigachi Industries Limited (19-08-2023)
I have 2 questions on Sigachi Industries for the experts on this thread:
- Why did the company go for a preferential issue at a discount to current market price and not go for a Rights issue?
- What will they use the 261 Cr+ amount raised through preferential issue?
Would be grateful for your views on this.
PSP Projects – Construction Company (19-08-2023)
PS Patel salary for FY23 is almost 15 Crores now (increased 3 times). Son and Daughter taking 2.4 Cr each, basically 20 Cr salary for the promoter family on profits of 140 Cr. That is a big red flag for me. I can digest PS Patel salary at 10 Crore given his importance but his son of 27 yrs of age (less than 5 yrs of experience at PSP) is now taking 2.4 Cr home.
Disc – Invested
As a value investor , when do you sell? (19-08-2023)
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My portfolio updates and investment journey (19-08-2023)
Thanks for reply, great work sir.
Do please continue to share .
Priyank’s Portfolio (19-08-2023)
Can you explain your rationale, time frame, and vision for this company? Till when you think to hold it and where do you see it probably in 3-5 years if you have that long holding thought…thanks
Short Answer: For me, there was nothing to lose
Long Answer: I’ll divide the answer into 3 parts:
1. What I seek in a microcap (MCap ~1000 OR PAT< 50)?
- In microcaps, I look for companies that may not have the best numbers but the direction is right. At times there are other things I look at, but broadly these are broadly the 4 parameters that shape my mind:
a) Business (what does it do and how big can it grow)
b) Management Integrity (how much can I trust the management)
c) Management skill/experience
d) Valuation
e) Everything else
Parameters (a) and (b) are non-negotiable.
Parameter (c) is negotiable because at times there are young entrepreneurs & you can’t really expect to always have a good experience. Sometimes, people learn as the journey goes on. When I was in my early career, I used to work at a very early startup where we would do all kinds of technology projects to survive. It took a few years, to finally start scaling up in something.
Parameter (d) – If I really like the business and as long valuation is not crazy, I’ll pay a bit more.
Parameter (e) – These are very company specific – so I’ll skip generalizing this one. For eg: I recently came across BCC Fuba via VP itself and I didn’t invest in it because of violations on multiple params including (e)
If a company makes it past my checklist, my ideal allocation is between 1% to 2%.
Yet, I have invested beyond that in Max India. I have done this in the past as well and each of the cases had its own reasons.
2. So why did I invest beyond 2.5%?
Due to my average buying price being low, I do not see significant chances of capital erosion (can’t comment on short to medium term). There can be capital stagnancy/illiquidity but that’s a risk I am okay with.
You are right about the significant price rise in the last few months. My initial buying was somewhere between March – Aprill before the market’s surged up. I added some at a later stage and some more after the post-results correction.
Further, after the recent concall, I feel more confident about the probability of not losing much here. But who knows the future !
3. Rationale / Outlook / Holding Period / Other Things
Let me answer all these ones by one.
Rationale: I think this is covered. I’ll write detailed notes on Max India once I get time. I’ll tag you. VP guys have already a good job though.
Outlook: I usually do not try to put targets. I don’t even expect management to give correct guidance (especially on a microcap).
But I can tell you that for < 500 Cr I have bought a business which:
- Is in a sector that is necessary AND should grow with time (multiple triggers)
- Promoter is trying to scale this business AND has a proven track record
- Has a very small base
Having said that, there are some challenges that the promoters will have to find a way through. Care homes / Mental health solutions etc have their own problems and risks. I do not expect numbers to start showing up in the short to mid-term. I would not be surprised if the topline growth is slow/stagnant in the initial years. As long as the direction is right and I continue liking the management, I plan to hold this stock for some time. Let’s give some time to the management and see how they perform.
How long can I hold?
Very difficult to say. For example: If I find something, which offers a much better risk-to-reward ratio, I might just exit/reduce (OR) if in the future, I see some risks or I’m unhappy with the way things have been growing, I might take action.
But, I’ll show tell you something else that should help understand my expectations. Every business that I buy, I categorize if “I can hold this for a decade”.
“CAN Hold” doesn’t mean I WILL hold. Rather, it’s more of a parameter that I use to foresee if the business/sector could continue growing till 2030. Whether I will actually hold or not, depends upon various factors such as management attractiveness, valuation, sector performance, unexpected events, personal biases/interests/needs etc.
I hope I have answered your questions. If there’s anything that is not, do let me know.
I think you are already a seasoned investor but I do not know who might just read my post and end up taking a decision, so I’ll just give the disclaimer.
Disclaimer: These are my opinions and NOT a BUY/SELL recommendation. My views may change anytime and I may take decisions anytime without informing anyone.
Krishca Ltd : A SME offering steel strapping Solution (19-08-2023)
Yes, if you want to invest exactly 1 lakh or less, you may need to wait 3 years. But with the upcoming lot size change, you may be able to buy 1 lot for somewhere between 1-2 lakhs. You can see NSE lot size guidelines here, which would give a better idea.
Gravita India success story (19-08-2023)
Not Just TCS, they have an exclusive global contract with TATA group and it forms 20-25% of the batteries collected.
Krishca Ltd : A SME offering steel strapping Solution (19-08-2023)
R u saying is we want to invest 1lak we have to wait 3 years from listing is it?
Sorry for my question im an new investor who joined only 6 months back need some knowledge about SME stocks