My notes of 11th August 2023 Concall
Cayman Division and New Hospital Performance
- Cayman Island division maintains strong margins after oncology block commissioning.
- Margin sustainability a point of focus for upcoming quarters.
- Radiotherapy block’s capital-intensive nature doesn’t impact margins.
- Larger hospital commissioning in FY25 to bring margin dilution due to increased fixed costs.
- Pre-commissioning phase involves costs for manpower, nurses, and doctors.
New Hospital Performance
- Progress with newer hospitals largely on track.
- Q1 experienced a slight dip due to seasonal factors, rebound expected in subsequent quarters.
- Mumbai division aims for breakeven or slight EBITDA positivity by year-end.
- Strategic investment focus on Bangalore, Kolkata, and Cayman divisions for growth.
- Sequential investments planned for new hospitals to drive accelerated growth.
- Confidence in steady performance and growth trajectory for new hospital divisions.
- Cohort’s QoQ revenue steady at 115 crores, marking 9.1% YoY growth.
- EBITDA margins for new hospital cohort surpass 5%, indicating healthy financial performance.
Headroom for Growth in Indian Healthcare
- Current statistic: India has 0.7 beds per thousand people, below WHO recommendations of 1.7 to 2.
- Achieving European norms (2 per thousand) challenging due to factors like evolving medical practices and shorter hospital stays.
- Over 50% of current bed capacity is unorganized, indicating significant untapped potential.
- Organized sector (PE-backed, listed, and organized hospitals) constitutes less than 10% of total bed capacity.
- Public sector holds 40%, leaving ample room for further organization.
- Organized sector poised to grow through professionalization and market share acquisition.
- India’s vast population ensures growth potential for decades.
Strategic Geographic Expansion: Long-Term Approach
- Uniform demand for medical services across city tiers.
- Surgery needs persist consistently regardless of town size.
- Current priority: Strengthen existing network due to high demand and waitlists.
- Concentrated efforts to enhance bed and operation theater capacities.
- Next step: Expand around existing hospitals, fostering strong referral systems within a State.
- Macro demand exists throughout India.
- Current strategy centers on maximizing existing infrastructure’s potential.
Tax Regime Transition and Deferred Tax Impact
- Previous tax regime utilized due to brought forward losses and MAT credits.
- Transitioned to the new tax regime after settling these matters.
- Deferred tax asset turned into a credit due to lowered tax rate.
- Effective India tax rate reduced to about 18%.
- Parent tax rate around 26%-27% with an additional 9% deferred tax credit (one-time occurrence).
- FY25 projected to have a lower tax rate as the 9% deferred tax credit won’t apply.
Comfortable Capex and Debt Management
- Guided Capex for the year: Approx. 1130-1140 crores (Cayman + India combined).
- Current financial position robust, surpassing Q4 of the previous year.
- Net Debt stands at a mere 19 crores.
- Expected 60%-70% Capex financed via debt in both India and Cayman.
- Gross Debt and Net Debt to rise, with Net Debt increasing by about 550-600 crores.
- Despite debt increase, Net Debt to EBITDA ratio projected to remain favorable (<0.60 or 0.65).
Sparsh Acquisition and Performance Update
- Current quarter’s Sparsh revenues in line with plans.
- Healthy EBITDA margin of approximately 34% achieved.
- Sparsh unit acquired in Q3 of the previous year.
- Previously acquired team integrated.
- Effective cost controls implemented, projected overheads at around 23% of revenue.
- Leveraging benefits from existing hospital operation for enhanced EBITDA margins.
- Steady growth evident, EBITDA margins progressed from 30% to 34% in Q1.
- Anticipate continuing positive trend in upcoming quarters.
- Acknowledgment of existing headwinds while maintaining positive outlook.
- Aiming to deliver EBITDA percentages consistent with the previous financial year’s performance by FY24 end.
Investment’s Revenue and Profit Impact
- Investment designed to sustain current revenue and EBITDA growth without adding beds.
- Focus on upgrading aging equipment and enhancing operational efficiency.
- Notable growth achieved (~20%) in the previous year without bed additions.
- Achieved through optimizing throughput and operational processes.
- Investment yields immediate accretive outcomes in terms of profitability.
- Enhancements contribute to Return on Capital Employed (ROCE) improvement.
- Strategic emphasis on maximizing efficiency for revenue increase.
- Allocating investments to expand OTs, ICUs, Labs, and Diagnostics.
- Additional throughput capacity achieved at existing cost levels.
- Strategic focus on maintaining margins until capacity expansion (expected in 2-3 years).
- Continued growth through efficient utilization of resources and expansion of capabilities.
Narayana Health Integrated Care: Strategy and Progress
- Pilot of Integrated Care launched across six Bangalore locations.
- Early stage with promising traction: 30,000 transactions, 45 million revenue.
- Focus on building integrated model, addressing customer needs.
- Current emphasis on achieving coverage for target market in Bangalore.
- Clinics expansion based on demand and capacity required.
- No fixed numbers for expansion plans at this learning stage.
- Clinics to meet subscribers’ needs, provide in-home medicine, and childcare services.
- Emphasis on building capacity to serve integrated plan subscribers.
- Iterative process for clinic expansion, driven by fulfilling customer requirements.
ARPOB Growth Strategy and Outlook
- ARPOB growth tied to efficiency improvements and procedure complexity.
- Focus on quicker discharges, increased daycare procedures, and specialized areas.
- Maturing hospitals and investments in robotics contribute to gradual ARPOB improvement.
- Company adopts cautious stance in providing guidance.
- Anticipated ARPOB growth, but not heavily reliant on price increases.
- Strategy centers on enhancing operational efficiencies and diversifying procedures.
Health Insurance Segment Progress and Timeline
- Applied to IRDAI for standalone health insurance company approval.
- Actively engaged with the regulator to secure necessary approvals.
- Timeline challenging to determine precisely due to regulatory and operational requirements.
- Focus on obtaining approvals and ensuring systems readiness.
- Aim to commence operations as soon as feasible, but no specific timeframe provided.
Expanding Specialties and Narayana Clinics
- Narayana Clinics provide holistic healthcare services.
- Blend of primary and secondary care at Narayana Clinics.
- Specialties tailored to location-specific demographics.
- Overcrowding eased by handling routine checkups at clinics.
- Chronic ailments managed via convenient video consultations.
- Patients benefit from regular monitoring and reduced hospital visits.
- Narayana Clinics situated alongside hospitals for seamless care.
- Referrals made to major hospitals for specialized and complex cases.
- Strategic placement in various city areas for accessibility.
- Initial focus on Bangalore’s southern region for clinic placement.
- Enhancing patient outcomes, convenience, and healthcare quality.
India Operation Growth Drivers and Price Hikes
- Growth primarily fueled by increased footfalls, occupancy, and throughput.
- Focus on Orthopedics and Oncology departments resulted in slight uplift.
- Enhanced ability to discharge patients faster and utilize daycare mode.
- Volume increase in patient services and efficient treatment contributed.
- Some realization increase from pricing adjustments and efficiencies.
- Shift in payer mix with higher percentage under insurance programs.
- International segment remains stable; cash segment decreased.
- Annual price hikes in the low single-digit range.
- Balancing cost increases with efficiencies to maintain sustainable pricing.
International Business Strategy and Growth Focus
- International patient volumes have shown growth quarter-on-quarter.
- Focus on core market of Bangladesh; reducing reliance on intermediaries.
- Shifting towards direct engagement model and digital marketing.
- Domestic and digital activities offer more resilience against travel disruptions.
- Anticipating reduction in international medical travel as neighboring countries develop.
- Increasing healthcare infrastructure in neighboring countries impacting demand.
- Core focus on digital and domestic activities; reducing emphasis on international marketing.
- Positive trend in international patient volumes but not aiming to reach pre-COVID levels.
Disc: Invested. No transactions in last 30 days.
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