Hello everyone! Ashwani here from Vadodara. I am also up for the meeting. I suggest that once we have a tentative group of participants, we organize a VC to break the ice and broadly discuss individual investment philosophies. Subsequently, we can decide on a physical meeting.
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VP Group Navi Mumbai (07-11-2023)
Hello All,
I have seen on VP FORUM various groups like VP- Europe. Wanted to check with forum members if forum members residing in Navi Mumbai would be interested in forming a VP-FORUM Navi Mumbai. We can then figure out the way forward.
Som Distilleries and Breweries (07-11-2023)
Lets take a step back to probe the possibility of highlighted growth of the company. I have created a table based on what I think can be a possible path to sale of 150 million cases by FY 30. It translates into a possible sales growth of approx. 10x from FY 23 levels. Imagine what such growth can do to the share price. Considering they’ll require ~ INR 12 crore to add 1 million cases of capacity (adjust for inflation in the coming years) it looks manageable amount of money with multiple financial instruments at their disposal. I have taken 90% revenue from beer and 10% from IMFL.
From the consumer point of view, considering the price hike in IMFL vs Beer across India, its reasonable to assume that beer volumes may grow disproportionally and on the higher side. I spend a lot of time abroad, and almost always found people drinking beer over hard liquor (unless they are addicted to a brand). I have personally tried SOM products for over a year and loved their beer, all three of them stood high on my quality index, namely power cool, hunter and woodpecker (Woodpecker started coming into the market just recently).
Cases in Mn | Revenue | Beer Revenue | IMFL Revenue | |
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FY 23 | 15 | 800 | 730 | 659 |
FY 24 | 30 | 1620 | 1458 | 162 |
FY 25 | 36 | 1944 | 1749.6 | 194.4 |
FY 26 | 50 | 2700 | 2430 | 270 |
FY 27 | 75 | 4050 | 3645 | 405 |
FY 28 | 100 | 5400 | 4860 | 540 |
FY 29 | 125 | 6750 | 6075 | 675 |
FY 30 | 150 | 8100 | 7290 | 810 |
The very nature of liquor industry dealing directly with Govt is bound to raise confrontations at times and its possibly true of any company operating in the liquor space. Despite this constant, SOM went up from ~40 Rupee per share to a high of 380+ in a short span of time and companies like Carlsberg and Radico have collaborations with them along with ace investors putting their money into it. So overall, long term story looks positive to me but as always, be alert when investing.
Pune Equity Discussion Group (07-11-2023)
hi i am interested…nice idea
Surat Equity Group (07-11-2023)
Hi, Is there any such active group for Ahmedabad?
ValuePickr USA @ Eastern Time Zone (07-11-2023)
Yes i am interested in us
Hazoor Multi Projects Limited (07-11-2023)
The company is available at very cheap prices no doubt. But certain things need more attention and clarification. If anyone can clear it up.
A. CEO is from the broking /securities background. How experience in broking background will help in roadways and infra business is anybody’s guess. I at least not able to see how these two fields can overlap, as experience in the broking industry is very different from the experience required to build roadways and highways.
B. I skimmed the annual report and noted there are only 9 permanent employees on the rolls. I am intrigued to understand how an infra company can function in a labor-intensive industry
Infra in India is a very difficult undertaking and would be watching the company to see how they shape up. D- No investments.
Usha Martin- Coming out of Chaos (07-11-2023)
Usha q2 fy 24 concall brief notes
q2 fy 24 volumes and revenues were lower because of lower sales of LRPC and wires, (mainly due to monsoon impact) both lower margin segments. Wire ropes segment did well, maintaining sales, but improving margins. Hence overall sales was down, but overall margins were much higher.
Management expects next half to be better in terms of sales from LRPC, Wires segments. Asbolute profits will be higher but blended overall margins could be slightly lower due to higher contribution from these segments.
Capex (first phase) coming on stream from next month and majorly from January when a furnace will become operational, thus improving capacity. Benefits of capex will be seen to small extent in q3 fy 24, much more in q4 fy 24 and fully in FY 25.
Debt is marginally higher because of higher inventory due to expectation of higher business in second half.
Market share gains seen in Europe. The other players in Europe are seeing problems and hence Usha with its cost advantage and product offering is gaining market share. Not looking at acquisition as of now, but if opportunity arises and is very lucrative, will be interested.
Saudi market can be a good market oopportunity for the company. (needs to be seen.)
Dividend payout policy of minimum 25% of profits spelled out. If capex needs are low, dividend can be higher, or some other forms of returns to shareholders can be thought about.
Company has improved cash flows significantly y on y.
These are things I can recollect first hand and struck me as important. Overall company seems to be well placed for FY 25.
disc: invested, added more in recent correction.
Surat Equity Group (07-11-2023)
I think we have a good number of replies to have our first meeting. Lets plan to meet post Diwali, I will come back with venue. In the mean time please suggest agenda for the meet besides getting to know each other in the first meeting. Suggest we meet immmediately after Diwali.