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Demerger of Adani Enterprises (19-07-2024)
Rs.23,000 Crores fund has been Invested by Promoters in 5 Adani Group Companies
The 5 Companies in which the Promoters have increased their stake in
- Ambuja Cements by 3.59% to 70.33%
- Adani Enterprise by 2.11% to 74.72%
- Adani Green Energy by 1.15% to 56.37%
- Adani Power by 0.96% to 71.75%
- Adani energy Solutions by 1.72% to 73.22%
The Promoter stake in the companies ACC, Adani Ports and SEZ, Adani Total Gas, and Adani Wilmar had no Change in the holdings from the previous Quarter ie. March 2024 to June 2024.
An Independent Analyst had quoted that “promoters raising stakes in firms was a signal of their confidence in the long-term growth prospects of the businesses and promoters’ belief that the intrinsic value of the company was higher than what the market thought it was worth.”
However, FII’s have significantly decreased their holdings in several Adani Group Companies during the June quarter.
What is your opinion on this? On one side FII’s exit the stock and on the other side Promoters increase their stake.
StageInvesting +Elliot Waves (19-07-2024)
Can you please share your analysis on Private sector banks especially HDFC bank as per EW wave ? Any signs on trend reversal?
DCX Systems Ltd (19-07-2024)
There has been a decrease in promoter, FII and DII shareholdings. Promoter have sold 12% holdings in last six months. Not a good sign. In concalls they are very confident about future business but here it shows different.
Gravita India success story (19-07-2024)
Read the article… please pardon me for my ignorance…
Can any seniors explain how this thing going to affect business strength of Gravita?
NewJaisa Technologies: A D2C Refurbished Electronics Play (19-07-2024)
Competitor Financials
Electronics Bazaar
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Have scaled revenues from 250 Cr. in FY20 to 660 in FY23.
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Business is almost entirely trading. Generates <10% EBITDA margins.
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Employee expense is only 3% of revenues.
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30 Cr. PAT in FY23, around 5% PAT margins.
- Negative cash flows despite posting profits.
Cashify
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Cashify sells refurbished phones + other electronics on top of laptops. Not a perfect peer.
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Scaled revenues from 350 Cr. in FY20 to 800 Cr. in FY23
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Employee cost is very high given the trading business. Other expenses are equally high.
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Could have been profitable save for these two line items.
- Cash flows are equally shady with several adjustments. I wouldn’t go anywhere near this business.
Salori e-Commerce
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Scaled to 5 Cr. in the first four years of operations, 30 Cr. at the end of 8 years.
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24% gross margins in FY23.
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5% EBITDA margins, 4% PAT margins.
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Looking at these companies, no one seems to be doing any serious refurbishment work (reflected in low gross margins and high trading line items). Management’s claim of competitors being traders looks to be true.
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This should put to bed any questions about Salori e-Commerce. New Jaisa has scaled to 60 Cr. of revenue in four years, with 47% gross margins compared to 24% for Salori.
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Electronics Bazaar and Cashify seem to have lots of scale despite poor unit economics. With eventual forays into adjacent kinds of laptops and eventually cell phones, I would expect New Jaisa to eventually reach EB’s scale of 500+ Cr. of revenue.
Wockhardt: an NiCE story (19-07-2024)
I agree. I heard a similar point of view from someone who is familiar with the industry. His broader point was that several optionalities could emerge. This includes the possibility of Zaynich itself having positive effects beyond what was originally envisaged. His view was that clearing Phase 3 was the big hurdle, and passing this obstacle would unlock a lot of value.
Another challenge he mentioned - the relevance of this in developed markets (where drugs make the most money). I’ve got more comfort on that one after the US compassionate use case. I had comfort even earlier, but this US case allowed updating of probabilites further. MDR bacteria looks to be a relevant problem even for developed markets.
I think Donald mentioned somewhere about Ayush’s framework of “business in transition”. It is one marker I have learnt to look for also, and I can fully appreciate where he comes from. The market often reacts with skepticism when early signs of transition show up. It often gives a good risk-reward for those that are tracking and have the risk appetite.
I did mentally put Wockhardt under this “business in transition” bucket. The market sees a drug manufacturer which has faced several FDA issues in the past, and has a splotchy history. But this is taking an innovator/ research turn. The time to act is when the market is still skeptical or has not even recognized the transition. This is obviously only for those with a high risk appetite.
I remember an industry veteran pointing to all the money poured into research and suggesting that the time value of that money should be looked at. Yes, that is true for the promoters, but for minority shareholders who got in when the business was priced such that nothing would come off all the research, the money poured in does not matter. For simplicity’s sake, if they poured in Rs. 100, and I got into the bus when the company was valued at Rs. 60, I just need returns on my 60. I don’t need to worry about the 100 poured in. These views are part of the same skepticism.
It reminds me of Druckenmiller’s story when he was made Director of research at the age of 25, with even a 52 year old reporting to him.
After about a year and a half -I was a banking and a chemical analyst -this guy calls me into his office and announces he’s going to make me the director of research, and these other eight guys and my 52-year-old boss are going to report to me. So, I started to think I’m pretty good stuff here. But he instantly said, “Now, do you know why I’m doing this?” I said no. He says, “Because for the same reason they send l8-year-olds to war. You’re too dumb, too young, and too inexperienced not to know to charge. We around here have been in a bear market since 1968.” This was 1978. “I think a big secular bull market’s coming. We’ve all got scars. We’re not going to be able to pull the trigger. So, I need a young, inexperienced guy. But I think you’ve got the magic to go in there and lead the charge.”
So I see it a bit like that. Veterans are scarred. Maybe we are the naive ones, but naivette might be the factor that is required to bell this cat.
Time will tell. All the best to those who are on this boat.
Disclosure: Invested from low levels, and views could be unknowingly biased. I see this as a high-risk investment and it is one made “from the heart” for me
MapMyIndia – The Map Company (19-07-2024)
I felt something is fishy when the promoter sold stake just couple of days after Goldman Sachs raised guidance, hence already sold half of my holdings when tis news got out. I think they saw ola and google maps trying eat their share in maps business beforehand. And these steps are goanna hamper the business of mapmyindia as maps business is their major contributor and other businesses like IOT still don’t add much to bottom line. Let’s see what management has to say on this. Eagerly waiting for concall to take a decision on remaining of my holdings in the company.
StageInvesting +Elliot Waves (19-07-2024)
@StageInvesting Can you please analyse Natco Pharma on MTF and DTF if time permits
Adani Wilmar Limited (AWL) – Essential kitchen commodities (19-07-2024)
adani wilmar share price: Adani, Wilmar are said to weigh selling $670 million stake in JV - The Economic Times The owners are exploring selling equal stakes that may total 13% in Mumbai-listed Adani Wilmar, said the people, asking not to be identified as the information is confidential. A sale that size would be valued at roughly $670 million as of Tuesday, and could take place as early as the coming months, the people said.
Looks like AWL has another 6 months to show 75% SH. Paring their stake (adani & wilmar) must needed now. Market is not happy with this overhang and also the fundamentals which is poor margins. Fortune and Kohinoor are the good brand but the OPM is less than 2%.