Typo there, I meant 2017 (starting from 2017, I mean).
Posts tagged Value Pickr
Oriental Carbon and Chemicals Ltd (13-11-2015)
If I am not wrong, expansion is in April 2017 and April 2018 as mentioned in the footnotes of Q2 results
Sterlite Technologies | Digital India play (13-11-2015)
Sterlite Technologies:
They are the largest manufacturers of Optical Fibers and Optical Fibre Cables (OFC) in India with around 35-40% market share. Their USP is vertical integration - they are the only player who manufacture silica from sand and then turn it to optical fibres. They have facilities in China and Brazil as well
One of the biggest beneficiaries of data explosion and digitization. To give you some context here - India today has around 70-80 mkm fibres laid out Vs close to a billion km laid out by China and 500 mkm by South Korea
The current airwave mode of data transfer in India is not sufficient for 4G roll out and they require optical fibre. Reliance Gio, Vodafone and Airtel have huge capex planned for 4G which will require overhaul of existing towers as well as new towers with optical fibre connectivity
Government has huge plans for fiberization. Read this
Demerger play: The company today has 2 businesses - Telecom and Power. By end of fy16, the telecom division will be demerged and the power business will be taken private. Total company today is valued at around 4000 Cr mcap and the unlisted business will be worth 800 Cr. If you wish to exit the power business, you will get around 22 Rs preference share within 30 days of demerger. Read the demerger details here
Valuation of telecom business: Telecom business will do EBIDTA of around 450 Cr. They have already done 250 Cr in H1 Fy16. Total debt transferred to telecom division is around 1000 Cr and the interest outgo will be 100 Cr. Post depreciation of around 19 Cr per quarter and tax of 28%, the PAT comes to be around 150 Cr. At market cap of ~2600 Cr [3400*(86-22)/86] of the telecom business, you are getting this business at around 17 PE. Telecom if a 20+% EBIDTA and 25% ROCE business. So, I think it is a good buy
Management reported that they plan to take their revenues from around 1500 Cr today to around 8000-9000 Cr in the next 5 years.They are doubling the OFC capacity from 7 million cables to 15 million cables by Q4FY16...this should provide a revenue & PAT boost to the company since capacity utilisation is high...However margin will deteriorate since OFCs have a lower margin than plain optical fibres...But management has guided for EBITDA margins in the range of 21-22%
End to end solutions provider: Currently, around 10% of their revenues come from service and solutions- design, implementation, software etc. They plan to grow this business going forward.
Sterlite’s telecom division acquired Elitecore Technologies last quarter (Revenue: 147 crore; EBITDA: 16 crore; debt free company). Elitecore’s CAGR is 25%; company has been profitable for the last 7 years
Another important point is that company has a large NFS order in J&K (~Rs1300 crores). The revenue impact of the order starts from Q2 onwards..In FY15 company had just recognised 68 crores of this revenue.
Risks to this thesis:
Considering the bad management reputation (Vedanta group - Anil Agarwal), I am sceptical that a plain commodity like OF and OFCs have EBITDA margins of 21-22%. My suspicion is that the company is transferring the power segment profits to the OF/OFC segment. This makes the power segment numbers look bad enabling the company to take the power division private since most shareholders will opt for preference shares looking at the bad nos. The major risk is that the telecom division margins suddenly drop off after the demerger...If you have a look at FY14 and FY13 nos...telecom segment had decent margins of 12-13% which have now increased to 22%...The management attributes the increase in margins to improving capacity utilisation and operating leverage...But is such an expansion in margin really possible due to increasing operating leverage only ??
Mgmt salary is really high...however I wouldn’t want to miss out on a stock on just this fact alone....The cost of missing out is high...
Government orders such as NPS etc generally have payment issues and can impact receivable days
Overall, we are getting a great business with 25% ROCE at less than 20 PE. I am expecting a good rerating post demerger. Many past demerger plays have been very rewarding - Entire Alembic group had market cap of 900 Cr in 2010 and now Alembic Pharma itself is 13000 Cr and Alembic ltd is 1000 Cr. Inspiration has been Joel Greenbalt's book - You can be a stock market genius!
Disclosure: Invested at 86
Oriental Carbon and Chemicals Ltd (13-11-2015)
The way I see it, I think OCCL is running at 100% capacity utilization. The downsides to this are that sales are not going to improve till capacities are expanded (unless price is hiked). However, it is a good sign that the company can sell everything it produces. We should see a meaningful growth in financials when the expanded capacities come online in 2016. Till then, only de-bottlenecking of production lines and price hikes would lead to top line increase.
Indian terrain—play on consumption (13-11-2015)
True that, but sometimes synergies are not immediately apparent to outsiders. The biggest positive I see is in the long run, elimination of rent from expenditure. In the bigger scheme of things, 16 crores is not a huge number. If it is partly funded with debt, it should not take more than a year or two to pay it off with internal accruals, especially with the improved performance.
Q3 should be better than Q3 of last year purely due to diwali falling in Q3 as opposed to Q2 last year. So a few bumper quarters and the company should have sufficient funds to comfortably acquire the warehouse and not impact performance.
Can anyone highlight if the purchasing of warehousing would affect the working capital/inventory scenario? I do not think so, the operations will go on as before, only ownership will change. Still, asking if anyone has any insights in such a situation.
Kaveri Seeds – Temporary thread for clarifications (13-11-2015)
The promoter shareholding Q-o-Q has increased from 56.76% in June 2015 to 57.49% in Sept'2015. That's an increase of more than 5 lac shares in the promoter shareholding.
All the additional shares have been purchased by G.Vanaja Devi.
Sugar Cycles: 7-8 years of losses followed by 2-3 years of super gains! (13-11-2015)
Enjoy the great sugar rally till it last. Some smart money is also started entering into the sector. Mr Vallabh Bhanshali of Emam fame has invested in Balrampur for his family account.
Akash Bhanshali disclosure
REPCO home finance – another Gruh in the making? (13-11-2015)
I am not doubting potential of HFC's. Just being cautious about rosy picture we all build and assume things would continue for 10-20 years at same pace.
Sriram, Sundaram, Chola and Bajaj all have substantial portfolio in housing now. These are not players we can ignore. I remember back in 2006-7, investors on TED were saying HDFC is 25% grower for 10 years. We all know that growth rate did not continue. HDFC is doing 12% growth for past 2-3 years. 10 years is very long period to predict even if macro's and big picture is favorable right now. We should assume things for 2-3 years and keep checking the story.
Lastly if real estate slowdown continues, many HFC's and NBFC/Banks will have have LAP portfolio defaults. In that case even if Gruh/Repco are not affected as much, entire sector will be de-rated. When a stock gets 20 PE from earlier 40, it wipes out 2-3 years of investor gain. That's what I would be worried about in near future.
Disc - Repco is more than 10% of my portfolio.
REPCO home finance – another Gruh in the making? (13-11-2015)
Nikhil, getting into a business is easy but maintaining profitability, growth may not be easy. I wld like to draw your attention to the rush into airline business in mid 90's, rush into software in late 90's. Similarly rush into the auto sector in the US in the begining of the 20th century. So 60-70 more HFC's, but how many wld remain, time will tell. Secondly the story sld be more than a 10 yr story because urban housing shortage is approx 20 mill and about 8 lacs or so new units are added p.a. And according to estimates about 30 cr pepole expected to move to citites by 2030 ( source: nhb.org.in/publications). The 8 lac figure is frm elsewhere, forgetting the source. Rural housing shortage is even more.
Regards
Discl: invested
Canfin homes ltd (13-11-2015)
It came in ET day before yesterday full page, I think they are preparing before their IPO