Hi aditya,
Where did you get this figure from - 57% market share? Who are the other competitors in this niche?
Disc: Not invested.
Hi aditya,
Where did you get this figure from - 57% market share? Who are the other competitors in this niche?
Disc: Not invested.
all of what you are saying is true - inspite of this being a big position for me, I shall say this again - this is the kind of business where cash has to be continuosly ploughed in for growth as they hold inventory. if they can work around that and palm this off to frnachisees/reduce WC days, it will generate FCF's - FCFs are what count for a shareholder., The issue is that this businesss linearly needs capital in consonance with topline growth (may be even more). IMHO, a more enduring moat comes from BS related efficiencies like asset turns, WC days and reducing capital deployed than from margins. Increasing amounts of capital locked in WC increase probability of black swans - obsolescence, write-offs, bad debts etc. -
Look at madura garments ROCE - its 70% and their WC is much better. ITFL is somewhere inbeween an arvind and a madura garments (part of ab nuvo). It's a good business but we just have to be cognizant of the cash flow issue here.
My view – Open for discussion and feedback from veteran boarders.
1. I feel results are pretty decent from all angles, sales for H1 is flat as compared to H1 last year despite delayed festive season this year. This means most probably we will see far better Q3 results.
2. Operating margin for H1-2014 was 10.20% (15.81/155.35) which has increased to 11.29% (17.20/152.33) in H1-2015. Company had already indicated in their AGM that they are expecting margin to grow 1-1.25% annually and that it will peak out at 15-16%.
3. PAT figures have increased by Rs. 8.1 crores from Rs. 9.04 crores in H1-2014 to Rs. 17.15 crores in H1-2015. This is due to increase of interest income by Rs. 2.5 crore, reduction in interest cost by Rs. 1.8 crores, diff in provision for tax by Rs. 2.4 crore and rest is 1.4 crores increase in operating income. In my view except Rs. 2.4 crore of provision for tax, rest 5.7 crore is genuine increase partly due to operating margin increase and partly due to financial structure change.
4. ROCE part- ROCE for H1-2015 is very healthy at 27% approx. (Avg Capital employed is Rs. 125 crores and EBIT is 17.20 crore for half year.)(Capital employed = Cap + Res + Long term loans + short term borrowings – Current investments.) For me any that generates more than 24% ROCE, ie., > 2% per month is good model for investment, irrespective of whether is cash and carry or last mile investment model.
5. Valuation – Due to delayed festive season, Q3 is expected to be very good, but even if it turns out to be decent growth, we can easily see 42-45 EPS for full year. (EPS of H1 is Rs. 24). So at cmp of 630, its still trading at just 14-15 PE multiple of FY16 earnings.
6. We may see some positive revenue surprise from their Indian Terrain Boy brand, their new accessories launch or effect to TV commercials. That’s all additional benefit.
7. The only point that I think is not their best decision is to buy that property of Celebrity fashions. That will unnecessarily reduce that ROCE and profitability. Anyways, considering the fact that there are benefited much coz of captive manufacturing by Celebrity and fact that celebrity is in needs of funds, it seems ok.
8. Also one more point that I consider as positive point is recent entry of few visionary investors in this counter, BSE bulk buying shows Indian terrain has been bought by Kedia Securities, Malabar fund, and Om Kedar Investment (Prof. Shavanand Mankekar). (all at around 550 levels in month of January).
So to summarise, I feel there is much scope for business and valuation growth in near term in this counter.
Disclaimer – Invested at 600 level.
Provision anyways hits PL before coming to Balance Sheet. Try passing a JE for inventory hit without routing through PL.
Also this kind of expense would have shown in the margins or the exceptional items in PL.
Now PE of 70X looks extremely high for Page Industries, seeing its last 3 QTRS Growth rate of 20-25% .....Its slowing down definitely.
Exited the stock today after 3 years of Holding.
ashwini
thanks - the way I thought about it was such short term provisions are also created for issues related to product liabilities - eg., warranty claims, deficiency in quality. Given that I know for a fact that there have been a few issues, is it possible that they created a provision which they will flow into the P & L whenever approrpriate (when litigation is complete or negotiation is done), so could it be a few containers of shrimps which are returned/of lower quality which will soon hit the PL.
your views would be enlightening.
Sorry - I do not hold any shares of Mastek / Majesco. thanks
IndiaNiveshSecuritiesLimited_MajescoLtd(MJCO)Q2FY16ResultUpdateNov_06_2015.pdf (300.1 KB)
Hello - Attaching Majeso report from India Nivesh. Target price 549. But India Nivesh forgot to subtract the share of Mastek Ltd. and of USA listed entity Majesco to arrive at the valuation of the India holding company Majesco valuation.
India's Majesco share is roughly 2/3rd so the target prices should be 549 *2/3 = ~ 366 rupees and not 549 rupees.
My two cents.
Awaiting comments
The kind of places tillers would sell need to have small holdings. So places like Punjab are out. The company sells quite a few units in Maharashtra but here the land holdings seems huge. As such Kerala is also a good market. Another places where tiller markets would be huge is Bihar, Bengal, Assam etc. But there the labour cost is so low that it beats having a tiller.
The industry seems only able to support that many players due to less sales.
Of the three power tillers listed in company's website, two are 600+ & one is 1000+ cc diesel engines. Compare it to motocycles (say bullets), the price seems justified, even less. Btw, the company licenses the technology from Mitsubishi.
As pointed out in point 1, most small land holders :
a. Work in their own fields
b. Have access to cheaper labour
c. Don't have the wherewithal to buy tillers even with the loan & the subsidy.
I have seen many a times that shareholders expect hefty dividends after a sale of business/land etc. But is it desirable? Asking because I am not competent to understand it.
If company has alternatives to build capacity in related or same business or they have capability to invest in business and make more money for us then I do not want one time dividend. If it is idle then I want it.
Thanks
Amol
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