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P. I. Industries Ltd. – A Unique Business Model can make it a Great Play on Agri & CSM Space (12-12-2015)
Entire stake is bought by institutions – name of a few has come out – balance should come (this is my thinking ) . What is wrong if promoters make honest exit at market price that too at 6 month low price that too for philanthropic and family reasons ? they must be applauded for wanting to give back to society.Now as for timing only the promoters will know what is the specific fund requirement for philanthrophy or family reasons but its useless to speculate – Remember 2 things : Promoters sold at Rs.610 which is the latest esop issue price . Secondly advance tax payout is due in 3 days-since no STT would have been paid by them for their initial purchase or acquisition they would need to pay tax on this transaction.Promoters did not behave opportunistically nor in unethical manner but sold a small stake for societal good since the old man is getting old this is laudable and must be complimented as they are doing charity at such a scale without any drum beating
P. I. Industries Ltd. – A Unique Business Model can make it a Great Play on Agri & CSM Space (12-12-2015)
The way I look at it, this stock has gone up almost 5 times in last 2 years. To raise 500Cr. 2 years back, the promoters would have to sell 25% of the company and lose control over it. Now they are able to do that selling just 5 odd percentage and keeping their holdings above 50%. It was an opportunity and they took it. So yes the owners behaved opportunistically. However, I would be more worried if Cartica sold than if Salil Singhal sold who is in his 70s. Just my 2 cents.
Ajanta Pharma (12-12-2015)
Thanks for all the applause. I dont know how much I deserve it.
If there is a case where things dont work out as expected especially on the front of the company reporting numbers as expected or where some other expected triggers dont play out then after the stipulated time, it makes sense to accept that we made a mistake in our investment thesis and exit the position and move on without any recriminations.
And it has often happened that after waiting a long time for the tide to turn for the company and still no returns, once I have exited a company, the things start to improve and even stock price starts to rise. But one has to take it as a part of the game and accept the misses with the hits. As long as the hits provide outsized returns as compared to the quantum of losses in the misses its okay
And one has always to consider the portfolio approach. There will always be a couple of stocks in a portfolio of 8-12 stocks which will not move along expected lines sometimes inspite of the expected fundamentals results coming through, But if the whole PF is performing well then that should be okay. Many a times some investors get caught up with a particular stock in PF and keep worrying about it. So there the PF approach should be helpful.
MPS Ltd (12-12-2015)
Hi Varadha,
Thanks for the industry feedback and keep them coming as this piece is invaluable in our research work.
As far as derating in multiples is concerned, MPS is derated by the market already as otherwise you will not find such a robust cash generating company available at reasonable multiples it is available today. What will avoid significant further derating is management’s proactive strategy in distributing cash. I feel management is quite aware regarding this fact and so is always keeping one feet on accelerator as far as dividend goes till any future clarity emerges. So with almost 3-4 % tax free dividend yield which is equivalent to parking money in saving bank account, not many will like to part with their holdings in this company especially considering management’s past track record in wealth creation. Key is holding on to margins — 35 % + ebitda — if there is any faltering in that then it might meet with significant derating. Otherwise every serious knowledgeable investor in the company knows that end industry is at best growing in single digits and play is only on increasing cost cutting within the same end size.
It is heartening to note (so far) that at least last year MPS performed on its topline at par with its peers (specifically, result declared peers). That doesn’t take away the fact that it underperformed most of its reasonable Indian peers except last year. Results of Newgen and TNQ will be interesting to compare. Even my concern is rising every passing day — not with rgds. to derating in multiples — but the way fund management is handled. No rationale dynamic management can wait indefinitely for opportunities to arise out of air as if you don’t catch the opportunities at opportunate time then it disappears equally fast in air. And responsibility rises tremendously when you raise funds equivalent to almost 70 % of your existing scale — and therefore the pressure to take decision will equally rise when you don’t take any decision for such a long time. So far management had the liberty to choose but I am afraid soon management might find itself trapped into a situation when it will have to take at least a token decision. This is because if you are comfortably growing organically then no one will question but if you are faltering on organic growth and having 70 % of your scale to spend for last 9 months then doubts will surely arise asto what you are waiting for ?? A deal is called a deal and is sealed as a deal when both the parties take some steps forward and finally meet to seal up the deal but if one is just waiting for the mouth watering most lucrative opportunity to seal a deal then if there is luck it might come but at most of the times pratical decisions need to be taken by keeping both present and future interests in mind making a trade off between what is best and what is good.
To make a note, Q2FY16 was the first quarter after almost 10 quarters when MPS degrew YoY organically in dollar terms and situation was not so good at subsidiary level too. I am still keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that Mr. Arora finds another Macmillan (both in terms of opportunity size and valuation at which deal is sealed) as otherwise this long time spent will itself act as a question mark.
These are my personal views and have kept my holdings in MPS intact and have not sold a single share nor bought any over last 30 days.
Rgds.
Vinati Organics (12-12-2015)
BP Wealth has come out with initiating coverage report on 9 Dec 2015. Will share the web-link as soon as it is available in public domain.
Havells for investment post the Sylvania stake sale announcement? (12-12-2015)
Hi,
Can we get an idea what will be the ROIC of the company post stake sale in Sylvania? That should jump a lot. Hence, PE re-rating likely?
MPS Ltd (12-12-2015)
Thanks Mahesh – one of my contacts who is a CXO at one of the above three said that the industry grows only at 3-4 % and one has to work extra hard to deliver a double digit revenue growth and its’ not easy trading margins to growth.
Given that, it will be interesting to see what MPS has lined up. I am starting to worry if there will be a de-rating in multiples if this type of growth persists for a year – sort of like what happened to infy between 2001 and 2014.
MPS Ltd (12-12-2015)
FY15 Peer data of MPS have started coming in :
SPS :
On a volume growth of +6.2 %, company has delivered a negative value growth of -(2.17) %. Revenues stand at INR 203.85 cr. (FY14 = 208.38 cr.), EBITDA margin at 53.07 % (FY14 = 54.86 %).
Amnet :
Company has delivered a negative value growth of -(7.11) %. Revenues stand at INR 69.69 cr. (FY14 = 75.03 cr.), EBITDA margin at 37.27 % (FY14 = 35.86 %).
Hurix :
Company has delivered a positive double digit value growth of +14.82 %. Revenues stand at INR 69.02 cr. (FY14 = 60.11 cr.), EBITDA margin at 24.90 % (FY14 = 24.18 %).
Duke Offshore – Hidden Gem? (12-12-2015)
@thestocklady, Thanks for your response.