Hi vivek.........are you still tracking insecticides india??
Even after the bonus issue.....the valuations look compelling. I have not gone into great detail but considering the company's track record.....looks like a steal at current valuations.( Conservative Mar 16 PE of 12-13)
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Insecticides India A stock with good Opportunity size (06-10-2015)
REPCO home finance – another Gruh in the making? (06-10-2015)
in these matters it is best to defer to the wisdom of management.
there is significant material difference between Gruh and Repco. While the former concentrates on Mumbai and Gujarat, the fastest growing markets in the country, the latter has its base in Tamil Nadu.
Also Repco, more than Gruh, concentrates on small ticket loans catering to self employed people. For this class of people income is lumpy and so are payments made by them. Naturally NPAs too tend fluctuate though it evens out over the long term.
The positive thing about Repco is the slightly higher rate of interest it charges borrowers since it has some kind of a monopoly in its market.
I presume once the economy begins booming, Repco will become aggressive in lending and thus increase leverage for this purpose.
disclosure: holding Repco in core portfolio and hence my views may be considered biased.
REPCO home finance – another Gruh in the making? (06-10-2015)
Hi @nikrod12 , thanks for replying.
My doubt is why repco should be worried when Gruh can generate safer loans ( Low NPA and thus higher asset quality) with taking higher leverage and generate higher ROE and still grow at around 25%. (May be because of their relying more on salaried customers)
I have tried to check leverage trend for gruh and repco. Gruh has maintained its leverage at average of 10 for past 10 years with 7 out of last 10 years showing leverage above 9. Also for all other companies in the same sector current leverage is high compared to Repco.
DHFL - 10.54
GIC Housing - 8.77
Canfin- 9.56
May be as you said they might be increasing their equity base before their rating exercise. But then it does not happen that Repco reduces its leverage before rating exercise and then take additional debt. recent rating results came at around end of Sept last month by CARE. Before that rating was upgraded in Sept 2013 by ICRA.
IPO in Mar, 2013 was planned to give exit to PE player Carlyle rather than increasing equity base( My assumption). After Mar, 2013 there has not been any incidence of raising equity. So may be leverage will increase further along with ROE in coming years. From 2013 to 2015 leverage has come up from 4.83 to 6.29. Is it right to think this way?
My richdreamz portfolio – visit my portfolio to learn together! (06-10-2015)
First to answer on PI -
I too had that doubt before I initiated my position here, however my line of thinking is below -
- Agri input has 3 main components
1) Seeds: From where the plants grow. This is the fundamental input for agriculture sector. Farmer depends on seed prices, seed quality for his acreage. The more he seeds the more acreage. So, government cannot have the prices of seeds grow as per the whims and fancies of seed producers. Agriculture still occupies major share of our GDP. So, government will interfere from time to time. Their own political success largely depends on how well farmers do!
2) Fertilisers: These are the chemicals that plans need to grow faster. The basic nutrients that nature provides for plants are oxygen, hydrogen etc but if provided with further nutrients like phosphorous, nitrogen plans will grow better. Here too I believe government intervention is there.
So, Seeds + Fertilisers make the basic requirements for agriculture. Fundamental requirements.
3) Pesticides/Herbicides etc.: This, in my opinion, is value added product. Farmers use it or not is entirely on their discretion. Pesticides as the name suggests are used to KILL pests. This is like downside protection which is discretionary in nature but very important. Since this is not a fundamental aspect of agriculture (though very critical), government would not like to interfere in its pricing. As such the pesticide usage is very low and we lose anywhere around 28-30% of the crops to weeds, pests, rodents, fungus etc. so any farmer education in terms of its usage will protect their downside.
My basic argument is, seeds and fertiliser are the basic ingredients without which no agriculture production itself can happen while pesticides are for downside protection. Government can freely interfere in basic things of a business not on a value added product used to protect downside of a business.
Another side to PI is, seed penetration is 100%, in a sense, I mean every agri land which has some plant grown on it has a seed, right? But that very agri land which has a seed in it does not have pesticide yet. In fact, we are at the bottom of the ladder in pesticide usage and for us to achieve food security, plant protection and better quality seeds are inevitable.
Yet another investment angle is, agri inputs only form 40% of the PI revenues while CSM form 60% where the high margins are there along with good order book! Sorry, I have explained in far more lengthy manner and bore you.
Page: yes, the valuations are on higher side, but Page would have earned them. But I'm not sure how long will they sustain if there is any slippage in revenue growth. Mostly might see time correction after the initial sell off (IF at all). Speedo, I'm happy to know that the prices are on higher side. It brings the aspirational value to it. If economy were to grow at 8+ for 3 years straight, you will find many middle class families affording these prices. Anyway, it forms a very small part of revenues as of now. Having been bullish on Page in different threads, I have added MPS and Cupid at the cost of Page and Gruh (though little tweaks only).
Premco Global — Narrow Fabric (A critical component for inner wear) (06-10-2015)
It must be Spica India if I am not wrong.
Vidhi Dyestuff Management Meet (06-10-2015)
Thanks for your contribution. I was looking at this company financials yesterday and I found it quite interesting. Seems a meaningful bet given that the industry has a very few players.
My richdreamz portfolio – visit my portfolio to learn together! (06-10-2015)
Just to play devil's advocate, Speedo's swimwear is the most expensive swim wear in Indian Markets. I agree that people want to learn swimming but one speedo swimming shorts for men cost around Rs.1000 (Bangalore Price) vs other qualities coming anywhere between 40-80% of Speedo's price. Recently I have seen people using Chromosome brand for men's underwear. Personally I am a loyal Jockey customer but how long people will remain that we will know in future only. I am not invested here because I think it trades at a very premium valuations and in the past I have been able to save myself from sudden pe de-rating.
I want to understand from you just one thing about PI.
Do you see any risk from government intervening in agricultural companies profit? Recent compulsory price reduction in genetically modified cotton seed by government has suddenly impacted the business of Kaveri Seed.Can similar thing happen here?
I am only invested in Gruh Finance from 5 companies you have mentioned.
Thanks
Vidhi Dyestuff Management Meet (06-10-2015)
Valuable post. Gr8 work.
What are the growth triggers available in future to maintain a 20+ CAGR apart from the one mentioned by you - Acquiring market share from sensient .
Lovable lingerie – poor man’s Page industries (06-10-2015)
Has someone met management recently? can someone update on the notes from AGM?
8k Miles Software Ltd, Cloud Computing (06-10-2015)
I am still little skeptical about 8K Miles, because other larger companies must be also seen the opportunity in the cloud computing business.
So other large IT companies like HCL,WIPRO,TCS and INFOSYS must be also in the cloud computing business, also persistent computers.
Then what is so unique about this company.
Please need some help to understand.
Regards