Thanks a ton mate. At the expense of sounding opportunistic, thhe futures r not banned yet??
Posts tagged Value Pickr
Skipper Ltd., distributing Power and Water, Is it a moat in making? (22-09-2015)
@Value_Investing, regarding “asset-light approach”:
” Skipper is the only company in India to have complete value chain control
from angles to tower production to fasteners to EPC resulting in control of over 80% of the
cost on any tower line. The company has done backward integration through angle rolling
which is the main raw material for towers and is also horizontally integrated with
manufacturing of fasteners and accessories for towers. The location of Skipper in Eastern
India allows it access to raw material at a competitive price leading to cost competitiveness
and it enjoys ~400-500 bps of cost saving by way of economies of scale, lower freight costs
and sources its raw material, mainly billets, from SAIL”
Skipper Ltd., distributing Power and Water, Is it a moat in making? (22-09-2015)
Thank you @Value_Investing and @ramakanth for interesting posts.
@ramakanth with below comments i am trying to answer your concerns :-
a) The sales from direct EPC projects for Skipper is just 46 Cr (>1% of total sales). (In-fact they have recently completed their first EPC project but do have few other in progress).Which only shows that Skipper is majorly supplier in T&D sector. Also there major sales is from manufacturing various engineering products (89%of total sales) which are used in T&D as well as others such as manufacturing telecom towers, LPG cylinders and Tubes. Although they are looking to expand in EPC projects in high power transmission towers (>400KV). the EPC tenders which they have to my knowledge is in high power transmission only.
b) Power Grid is the major buyer (~50% of total sales from engineering products). This is two way sword. Benefit is that they are suppliers. Companies winning Powergrid orders provides them orders for supplying various products which enhance chances of money recovery. Disadvantage is that its overly dependent on Powergrid. They are into same business from past 30 years and have good reputation which helps them getting tenders as material supplier so somewhat this disadvantage do not impact much. Also they are due to same reason have asset light model ie. do not require capex as much as companies taking EPC tenders.
c) Incomparison with KEC or Kalpatru whose major business is securing Tenders of EPC projects and delivering them. In a way both these companies model is different from Skipper.
With regards to why PVC pipes, I need to further look for the reason but on the onset, it seems to add another engineering product which is going to be in huge demand as indian economy progresses.
Your veiw points are welcome
Skipper Ltd., distributing Power and Water, Is it a moat in making? (22-09-2015)
Thank you @Value_Investing and @ramakanth for interesting posts.
@ramakanth with below comments i am trying to answer your concerns :-
a) The sales from direct EPC projects for Skipper is just 46 Cr (>1% of total sales). (In-fact they have recently completed their first EPC project but do have few other in progress).Which only shows that Skipper is majorly supplier in T&D sector. Also there major sales is from manufacturing various engineering products (89%of total sales) which are used in T&D as well as others such as manufacturing telecom towers, LPG cylinders and Tubes. Although they are looking to expand in EPC projects in high power transmission towers (>400KV). the EPC tenders which they have to my knowledge is in high power transmission only.
b) Power Grid is the major buyer (~50% of total sales from engineering products). This is two way sword. Benefit is that they are suppliers. Companies winning Powergrid orders provides them orders for supplying various products which enhance chances of money recovery. Disadvantage is that its overly dependent on Powergrid. They are into same business from past 30 years and have good reputation which helps them getting tenders as material supplier so somewhat this disadvantage do not impact much. Also they are due to same reason have asset light model ie. do not require capex as much as companies taking EPC tenders.
c) Incomparison with KEC or Kalpatru whose major business is securing Tenders of EPC projects and delivering them. In a way both these companies model is different from Skipper.
With regards to why PVC pipes, I need to further look for the reason but on the onset, it seems to add another engineering product which is going to be in huge demand as indian economy progresses.
Your veiw points are welcome
Thomas Cook India-Will it move like Warren Buffet Stock (22-09-2015)
Much more in depth. Money quote:
According to Vivek Mallya, a practicing chartered accountant in Bengaluru, Thomas Cook has derived its significant valuation from Quess’ performance rather than its own operating margins. “In fact, Thomas Cook could not report adequate profits to cover its MD’s remuneration, and had to seek the Corporate Affairs Ministry’s approval for the excess remuneration,” he said.
So called value investors were actually speculating it seems (knowingly or unknowingly!)
Disc: no positions, not interested either (following because of Prof Bakshi’s interest)
Byke hospitality – Truly asset light? (22-09-2015)
Press releases by byke states is that its on long term lease. Muchalla group press releases too mention that while its owned by them its managed and operated by byke.
No info on any revenue sharing arrangement.
Kesar Terminals and Infrastructure Ltd (22-09-2015)
AGM tomorrow Wednesday, September 23, 2015
Byke hospitality – Truly asset light? (22-09-2015)
did not understand,is muchalla group given hotel on lease to byke with byke just paying rent or is it something else
Prima Plastics (22-09-2015)
i hope you have gone through the thread and their website, its available there.
Strides_Arcolab (22-09-2015)
One approval from FIPB is pending and dates will come after. I think it should happen in third qtr.