As per the yearly numbers reported here – Year wise Achievements | Ministry of New and Renewable Energy | India, India seems to have added 10GW per year in 2022 and ~7GW in 2023, the estimates of 10GW and above per year looks aggressive to me. It doesn’t account for slowdowns where we might see a dip in new commissions. I would like to understand what changes for the company for every 100MW increase in the order book, does their working capital cycle increase, does the debt profile change significantly. Understanding these may help us arrive at a sustainable growth rate. Let me know if that makes sense.
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What’s the right price to enter? (28-02-2024)
Sometimes its just market expectations that the results shall be good and hence there is a good boost up before the results. Then when the results are not in line with the expectations, the stocks takes a dip.
I understand the fundamental and technical aspects but the point is if we have entered at the boosted up price… and it goes down…no problem so as to exit at a profit…but the issue is how long should one wait? Like Laurus Labs, I bought at 600 in early or mid 2022 and then it fell rapidly and now it is at 400 levels.
So how to derive that the stock is overvalued or undervalued even from investor perspective with holding period of 2-3 years.
My portfolio updates and investment journey (28-02-2024)
Thanks Mudit, @Mudit.Kushalvardhan.
I have not used reverse DCF yet. If I feel lazy about something then I might use it someday. However, I make my own basic model based on management guidance and my own extraplotions.
My valuation is based on PEG ratio, based on my three to five years growth expectations, I am fine to give 2PEG for investment and breach of 3PEG makes me dizzy .
Below is an example of PB Fintech, based on management guidance and my own extrapolation of 30% revenue growth and 30% incremental revenue going to EBITDA/Profit. I dont give value to FY2030 but just extrapolated. I keep updating this as and when market cap changes or new information becomes available. The biggest risk of doing this is might be we remain in our own world, we always need to test it. For example: take rate assumed here is at similar levels (~13%) through the years so that might be at risk.
FY23 | FY24 | FY25 | FY26 | FY27 | FY28 | FY29 | FY30 | |
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Revenue | 2,558 | 3,600 | 4,680 | 6,084 | 7,909 | 10,282 | 13,367 | 17,377 |
ESOP cost | 543 | 350 | 280 | 224 | 179 | 143 | 125 | 125 |
EBITDA excluding esop cost | -119 | 194 | 518 | 939 | 1,486 | 2,198 | 3,124 | 4,327 |
Other income | 174 | 350 | 385 | 424 | 466 | 512 | 564 | 620 |
Depreciation | 65 | 108 | 140 | 183 | 237 | 308 | 401 | 521 |
PAT | -488 | 86 | 482 | 956 | 1,536 | 2,259 | 3,161 | 4,300 |
PAT CAGR | 463% | 234% | 106% | 92% | 82% | 75% | ||
Mcap at 50PE | 4280 | 24110 | 47789 | 76,787 | 1,12,940 | 1,58,062 | 2,15,015 | |
Mcap at 80PE | 6848 | 38576 | 76462.4 | 1,22,859 | 1,80,704 | 2,52,900 | 3,44,024 | |
EBITDA Margin | -5% | 5% | 11% | 15% | 19% | 21% | 23% | 25% |
Return expectations at 50PE from FY27 | -2% | 15% | 23% | 26% | 28% | |||
Return expectations at 60PE from FY27 | -3% | 18% | 27% | 31% | 33% | |||
Return expectations at 80PE FY27 | 24% | 35% | 38% | 38% | 38% |
Professor Damodaran says, even if models/forecasts are not correct we should still do it. It gives us more insights to us and a range of valuations.
I have such basic models for all my larget bets. I have earlier shared Ami Organics in the thread which is appreciated by @Worldlywiseinvestors ,I mention this as I am his big follower and was delighted to see his like.
Disclosure: Invested in PB Fintech and trasacted in last 30 days.
Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor and nor a SEBI registered Analyst. The content shared here is only for learning purpose. All the names mentioned here are for example purpose. I may buy more, exit or partly sell the stock/bonds without any prior intimation
Rudra’s PF and Information attic (28-02-2024)
Invoking Sixth Sense and its role in Business & Investing
The sixth sense is generally defined as a keen intuition or perception that enables one to grasp the true nature of a situation beyond the ordinary five senses. It is often associated with a deep understanding or insight that goes beyond what is immediately apparent. The concept of the sixth sense is not rooted in a specific discipline but rather in a combination of psychology, philosophy, and spirituality. It is a power of perception beyond the five senses; Intuition.It is an inner sense of guidance that can help you navigate your way through life, to better relationships, health, well-being, and success. It is a cumulative power of all your other senses – sight, sound, taste, touch, smell – that culminates in a stronger sense of inner knowing.
Humans have two brains—the familiar cranial brain and a “second brain” in the gut. Scientists recognize the web of neurons lining the gastrointestinal tract as an independent brain, and a new field of medicine—neuro-gastroenterology—has been created to study it. This enteric brain perceives, thinks, learns, decides, acts, and remembers all on its own. The cranial brain sets us apart from the world, the thinking in the belly joins us to it. Having been taught to mistrust our bodies, to mistrust our intuition, to mistrust any information that is not analytical, we are now cut off from the feminine core of our intelligence—the belly brain.
The sixth sense remains a fascinating and somewhat elusive concept, blending elements of intuition, instinct, and perception. Warren Buffet, in an interview in 1999, said that investors need to fend for themselves and rely on their knowledge and Intuition when searching for promising businesses to invest in. Naval Ravikant, tech veteran: “It takes time to develop your gut, but once it’s developed, don’t listen to anything else.” All investment managers with experience have benefited during their careers from the use of the sixth sense. Even the U.S. Navy has invested millions of dollars in helping sailors and Marines refine their sixth sense because intuition can supersede intellect in high-stakes situations like the battlefield
In conclusion, the sixth sense serves as a compass guiding us through the complexities of life, offering insights beyond the realm of logic and reason.
Rudra’s PF and Information attic (28-02-2024)
Invoking Sixth Sense and its role in Business & Investing
The sixth sense is generally defined as a keen intuition or perception that enables one to grasp the true nature of a situation beyond the ordinary five senses. It is often associated with a deep understanding or insight that goes beyond what is immediately apparent. The concept of the sixth sense is not rooted in a specific discipline but rather in a combination of psychology, philosophy, and spirituality. It is a power of perception beyond the five senses; Intuition.It is an inner sense of guidance that can help you navigate your way through life, to better relationships, health, well-being, and success. It is a cumulative power of all your other senses – sight, sound, taste, touch, smell – that culminates in a stronger sense of inner knowing.
Humans have two brains—the familiar cranial brain and a “second brain” in the gut. Scientists recognize the web of neurons lining the gastrointestinal tract as an independent brain, and a new field of medicine—neuro-gastroenterology—has been created to study it. This enteric brain perceives, thinks, learns, decides, acts, and remembers all on its own. The cranial brain sets us apart from the world, the thinking in the belly joins us to it. Having been taught to mistrust our bodies, to mistrust our intuition, to mistrust any information that is not analytical, we are now cut off from the feminine core of our intelligence—the belly brain.
The sixth sense remains a fascinating and somewhat elusive concept, blending elements of intuition, instinct, and perception. Warren Buffet, in an interview in 1999, said that investors need to fend for themselves and rely on their knowledge and Intuition when searching for promising businesses to invest in. Naval Ravikant, tech veteran: “It takes time to develop your gut, but once it’s developed, don’t listen to anything else.” All investment managers with experience have benefited during their careers from the use of the sixth sense. Even the U.S. Navy has invested millions of dollars in helping sailors and Marines refine their sixth sense because intuition can supersede intellect in high-stakes situations like the battlefield
In conclusion, the sixth sense serves as a compass guiding us through the complexities of life, offering insights beyond the realm of logic and reason.
My portfolio updates and investment journey (28-02-2024)
I like your style of detailed analysis and incorporating all the latest details from.concalls in your estimation. I would like to ask if you also apply the reverse dcf of tijori finance also, and how much weightage we should give to reverse dcf in deciding about estimation for next 5 years or 10 years etc??
My portfolio updates and investment journey (28-02-2024)
I like your style of detailed analysis and incorporating all the latest details from.concalls in your estimation. I would like to ask if you also apply the reverse dcf of tijori finance also, and how much weightage we should give to reverse dcf in deciding about estimation for next 5 years or 10 years etc??
Supriya Lifescience Ltd – pure play API (28-02-2024)
In 2021 Dec, company got listed, 22-23 was a bad year for company due to heavy dependency on China and Covid impact. During the last 1-2 quarters, company shifted its focus from China to Regulated markets and that is reflected in margin from geographies. Also Capex spent was slightly delayed in terms of capitalisation by 1-2 quarters.
But a company which is doubling its manufacturing, getting into new markets(and getting traction), doubling its RnD, and also doubling its partnerships (albeit the outcome of partnership will materialise in next 2 years) is a stock to watch out in near future.
Companies which may have a temporary setbacks but have a strong roadmap ahead and is having multiple growth paths are the ones which we might get at a decent valuation.
Beauty lies in the fact that Capex is mostly going to be funded by its internal accruals and minimum debt.
Check this Video, Will give you little more insight about company, Chairman talks about supriya vision and you can see the insides of manufacturing factory -:
Supriya Lifescience Has Big Expansion Plans | Know Your Company | NDTV Profit