I really feel like Indigo has great deal of potential from here, all the headwinds they are facing are sectorial and nothing company specific. I think their loyalty program could be something which can help it retain market share. They should collaborate with Dreamfolks to allow customers to redeem their points on lounge.
They have great OTA opportunity also, they should further invest and collaborate with other travel SaaS companies to focus on how people are spending their money once they reach their destination. Which should help Indigo curate iteniary for people and allow them to make more money from advertisement both in flights and through their app, which is much better than any other airline application.
They should also focus their business related to private charter as UHNIs continues to grow in India.
I don’t think promoter selling a problem here, they have professional and independent management now and ambition to grow and retain market share.
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The Anti-Portfolio (10-11-2024)
Journey of Equity investing learnings , growth and scaling (10-11-2024)
2017-2018 i inherited portfolio from my dad and it put a lot of responsibility on how to steer it. I coudnt go wrong was my no1 objective second was to compound it well. I got more so agreesive on learning read magazines read books on investing , started following some legendery investors samit vartak of sage one , vijay kedia ji & others.
2018 – 2020 was a lackluster period where quality did very well and mid and smallcap didnt do well . Luckily portfolio had companies like Colpal, HUL ,abbott hdfc bank , trent, castrol India which was doing fine. I used to check results follow the buisness and i felt comfortable as PF was growinng in double digits .
2020 hit and thats where transition of portfolio began for me. Fall was decent PF fell i guess around 30-40 % and being in quality names didnt bother much as i said they will come back eventually.
My first encounter to go into midcap and smallcap happened when i looked at Laurus labs @ 90rs in 2020 June . I started following business and i liked everything about business but was worried about market in generals and i missed it at 100 , then at 150 .
I took advisory in 2019 of Intelsense @basumallick and his reco on Laurus i missed .
I was too cautious to not loose money that i was in decision paralysis . I lost a 6 bagger in a year ( closely monitored & understood ). Mistake of omission.
Journey to midcap and smallcap started post that when i said to myself i will evaluate business and not let my past ( losses ) fear of lossing money come in way .
Dada helped and guided on psychological thoughts as i always used to ask dada how do i sell castrol and buy a midcap company. His handholding has helped a lot in my journey.
Next midcap idea was Elecon Engineering , i had dabbled in elecon in 2008 @ 180 and sold eventually @20 i knew the company and that past encounter helped me . My thoughts were this company has gone through worst but never closed. Story of margin expansion sales growth and debt reduction was visible to my eye . I loaded it @180 then @220 and then at 370 . Was a sizeable 5-7% size at cost. Recently exited around 1200 . That was first big win on large size allocation
Ranvir’s Portfolio (10-11-2024)
How many stocks should be there in a portfolio?
Lets, look at some data first before coming to any conclusion.
One of the most famous fund managers, Peter Lynch held more than 300 stocks for most part of his career, across cycles for 13 long years when US economy was not really doing so well consistently (1978-1991 period even had 02 recessions). Still, his return was one of the best that we have ever seen in such a long time frame.
Even Warren Buffet had bought more than 300 stocks in his life. To reach to 01 coca cola he had to buy shares of 50 different companies, later to realise that the others were not worth holding. Everyone knows what titan did to Rakesh Jhunjhunwala, but how many no. of stocks he already owned the day he bought Titan? And how much allocation he made to Titan in terms of % of his total networth at that time? No matter how good an investor you are, finding a multibaggar like Titan also involves a factor of luck, because investing is not a precise science, there are unlimited variables which come into picture that you can never be sure about any particular analysis. That is the precise reason we dont put all our money in our single best investing idea, rather we all own a portfolio of multiple companies.
On the other hand there are many highly successful investors i know who have very concentrated portfolios and they too have build phenomenal wealth (the number is as less as 2-3 stocks for some of them to 7-8 for others). There are many such type investors on valuepickr as well whom we all can follow and learn from. Few examples are @Anant, @hitesh2710, @phreakv6
Ranvir dehal is someone who is on the other side of the curve wherein he practices extreme diversification and yet quite successful. Forget last 4 years, if you see his returns over a longer time frame than his returns are also phenomenal. I think all of us at Valuepuckr are lucky to learn from so different, yet so successful investors from both sides of the curve when it comes to constructing portfolios. I think rather than advicing these investors as to how many stocks they should have in thier portfolios, as per our own liking, inclination or biases, we should simply try to learn and understand the pros and cons of different strategies and then follow tje process which suits with our investment temperament.
I am somebody who has been lucky to have been personally mentored by Ranveer Dehal for more than a decade now, and today i am also his analysis partner. Ranvir is a full time investor now, after he took voluntary retirement from a government job. And now he dedicates, all his effort in knowing new new business ideas.
Having said that it’s important to understand which phase of learning curve an investor is in currently. The ultimate aim is to find that 1 Titan, or those 2-3 life changing multi baggars. But currently we are in that grind phase where we are ready to put in all our efforts. Currently we read about lot of businesses and we simply buy it if we like it. Our selling framework is very simple, we only sell when data starts indicating towards deterioration in fundamentals or the valuations have become so high that they have started factoring in everything that can happen in next 4-5 years including all the optionalities. My understanding is that what will remain in the portfolio 10-20 years down the line will have a Titan type outcome. Rest all will keep weeding out for new ideas. The portfolio may still have 40 names but few positions will become large enough and rest others will become insignificant to influence the overall outcome, hence they wont matter. Though i believe the no. of stocks will keep reducing as we keep moving forward in the learning curve.
I also carry out one more exercise to determine how many stocks i should have in my portfolio. After end of every financial year i arrange all my stocks in decreasing order of allocation (largest position at no.1 in the list) and then write down the returns i have got in all the stocks i own in front of them. Then i analyse which stock gave me how much return. For eg if my top 3 return stocks are at no. 21st, 26th and 38th stock, then i am not yet ready for a concentrated 10 stock portfolio. it means even the 38th stock has added value to my portfolio despite having a low allocation. If i wud have owned only 20 stocks then i wud have missed all 3 top performers of my portfolio. The day i start getting best returns in approximately top 10 positions, i will reach a level where i am comfortable having a portfolio of only 10 stocks. The day i reach a level where consistently my highest returns have been in top 3 positions, i will be comfortable making a concentrated portfolio of only 3 stocks.
Conclusion: No rule fits all. Having a bias or inclination regarding having no. of stocks in a portfolio without undeterstanding an investor’s complete thought process is a fallacy.
Regards.
Disclosure: I am a novice and writing it here for the purpose of my own clarity rather than trying to teach anyone.
Journey of Equity investing learnings , growth and scaling (10-11-2024)
Hello Everyone i have been a silent reader of Valuepickr for years since a decade or so. I started this post as i have learned from fellow valuepickrs , great investors , own mistakes i would pen down those to list my own thoughts and get back to them to keep learning curve and for others who may get some help with my learnings.
Please consider these as just views and my self learning ( no buy & sell recos ) .
My journey started in 2007 when i was too intrigued with markers and movement and i thought this is way to get rich quickly. My dad gave me some money and opened a demat account so i could explore my inertia. I started dabbling and some quick money gave me goosebump. In 2 years 2008 markets had a way of teaching lessons and i had a big pile of contracts and low networth than i started with.
Desire didnt die and i felt i needed to learn to get better i explored by talking to people taking tips and doing primary checks and investing . That didnt yield much as i wasnt fully aware about what i should have been looking at .
I remember i traded Suven pharma @ 20 rs for a 2 RS profit and i had averaged satyam post scam from 70 Rs to 10 Rs. Though i didnt hold enough to make money there.
My risk reward was not in place. I never looked at downside i always was too bullish on anything i bought.
Years passed capital was low and i did few good investments which yielded decent returns .
I started working and focus on equity was low but i was active with what was happening in markets.
I took decent size bet in Enkei wheels & Tejas network i averaged down from.300 rs to 100 rs didnt make anything in 1st one lost well in 2nd at that time tata taking stake was not announced telecon was not doing well and tejas was bleeding internal employees were selling . I lost patience and sold out .
My real journey to investing began post that in 2018
The Anti-Portfolio (10-11-2024)
Just that both make solar cells and modules, waaree should start solar cells production soon.
The Anti-Portfolio (10-11-2024)
Hi Vikas: What kind of business overlap you sense b/w ‘Waaree Energies Ltd’ and ‘Websol Energy System Ltd’?
The Anti-Portfolio (10-11-2024)
Time techno was already quite close to my target, quite quickly, further growth plans can take a decent amount of time, hence I exited.
Shakti pumps is still decently valued given the projection from management for 30% growth going forward for few years, and capacity expansion plan.
NMDC Steel ( NSL ) – A Unique Demerger Opportunity (10-11-2024)
This company is in the process of demerger & the acquiring company will be interested in repalcement value. As it is easy for them to compare this investment with the expansion, they make inorder to obtain new equivalent capacities.
NMDC Steel ( NSL ) – A Unique Demerger Opportunity (10-11-2024)
Is replacement cost valuation model even viable? The only notable figure I remember that used it was Harshad Mehta.
NMDC Steel ( NSL ) – A Unique Demerger Opportunity (10-11-2024)
Valuation:
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Replacement value = 8000 Cr per MTPA i.e. 24,000 Cr for 3MTPA
Enterprise Value = Mkt Cap + Debt – Cash =14,041+6662-721 = 19982
For EV=Replacement value . price per share is 61.6 INR -
EV/EBITDA = 6 (industry standard)
19982/EBITDA = 6
EBITDA required = 3330 cr (for current valuation i.e. 48.9/share)
JSW & Tata – EBITDA per MTPA is 800-1000 cr
From EV/EBITDA perspective the company looks fairly valued & from Replacement value perspective the company is underpriced.
Pls correct/modify , in case i miss anything.
Disc : Holding at 48 levels