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Sugar Cycles: 7-8 years of losses followed by 2-3 years of super gains! (31-01-2024)
Sugar sale quota will be higher by 10 to 15 % as compared to last year due to higher production in Q4 and higher closing stock in Q3. However, profit for FY 24 may not be 190 crs – but will be upwards of 150 crs – if sugar realisation increase to 41/42 then it could reach 200 crs !! Q1 FY 25 will be much better than Q1 FY 24 due to better recovery – recovery in April/May is lowest due to warm temperatures but this year crushing will end a month in advance as crushing capacity is higher by 30% and cane is only 8% higher.
Lower ethanol (and so higher sugar production) has messed up the sugar sales/ stocks calculations – quarter wise. But on annual basis it will average out.
regarding your points:
- Tax rate was 13% Q4FY23. Will it be same in Q4FY24? – tax rate in Q4 is lower due to the perculiarity of the business of production / sale mismatch. In Q4 FY 22 it was 17%.
- Sugar sales were 1.43 [from your matrix] in Q4FY23. Per latest concall, sales quota for Q4FY24 would be similar minus the exports opportunity. However, your assumption for the sugar sales is 1.77 in Q4FY24. – as above
- Bio-Fuel profitability will be suppressed in Q4FY24 compared to LY. – will be more than compensated by higher profits in sugar
Its a pity these aspects are not explained in the investor presentation/ concall.
Omkar’s Portfolio Analysis and Discussion (31-01-2024)
Documenting long term investing
Long term investing is tricky but it is easy to document as compared to high churn strategy. Despite it is easy to document, i dont think we have enough literature on the subject which talks about “practical” aspect than “theoretical” aspect. Thats why investor community has confusion over – what qualifies for long term, is it buy and hold, buy and forget, which companies are suitable for this strategy
I am really thankful to valuepickr team enabling investor community to document some aspects of long term investing
Through this thread, my humble attempt is to address following aspects
- How to manage long feedback loops in long term investing
- How to document emotions
- Whats my definition of long term investing – buy, hold and sell
I also hope, after few years reader will have definitive answer on – whether I am successful in implementing strategy? I am hoping it will be so obvious ( right or wrong ) that I do not have to publish my long term IRR to deduce that
Yash Pakka – (Previously Yash Paper) – Rising from ash (31-01-2024)
I was reading about M/s Pakka Ltd., wherein I came across an instance of a merger of a company owned by the promoters into M/s Pakka Ltd. As per my analysis, the valuation given to the merged company was very generous. I request your valuable inputs.
As per AR 2022-23, the company informed that it has absorbed by merger another company, called Yash Compostables Limited (YCL). The Scheme had been approved by the Hon’ble National Company Law Tribunal, Allahabad Bench vide order dated April 18, 2022. As such, 28,38,500 Equity Shares of Face Value of Rs. 10/- each of Pakka Limited were allotted on 13.05.2022 to the Shareholders of YCL.
AR 2022-23, Page 119,
In this way, around 7.45% of the company went to YCL shareholders.
From the Merger related documents available on website of Pakka Ltd., at least 99% of the shareholders of YCL were promoters of Pakka Limited.
So, it is clear that ~7.45% of the equity holding in Pakka ltd after the merger went to the existing promoters of Pakka Ltd only.
Now, the NCLT scheme annexure gives the basis of valuation of YCL as follows: –
Pdf named ‘YPL NCLT Convened Meeting- Notice to equity shareholders, pages 123-142.
As such, the methods used to value YCL and ‘Pakka Ltd’ were ‘DCF method’ and “Market Price method”, respectively, as Pakka Ltd was already listed on exchanges.
As the DCF takes into account the future projections, following were the projections used: –
So, the revenue was projected to grow at a CAGR of `~46% from FY 2020 to FY 2023.
Similarly, PAT was projected to grow from loss of -1.3 cr to profit of 16.2 cr.
Further, the valuer says that the management of YCL has forecasted company’s earnings.
The valuer did not feel any need to question such high projections.
As a result, the Equity value of YCL was calculated as ~118 crores as on 01.06.2020, whereas it was still making loss of 1.3 crores as of 31.3.2020.
AR 2022-23, Page 249 of Pakka Ltd shows that YCL has negative Net assets as on 01.04.2020.
Now, if we compare the projected revenues of YCL with actual figures from Pakka Ltd. ARs, we see projections were indeed too high. (Although not directly comparable, but since YCL was mostly making tableware products, I am using ‘Moulded products’ revenue from Segmental reporting in Pakka Ltd.
(in cr) FY 2020-21 FY 2021-22 FY 2022-23
Projected Revenue 344 516 670
Actual Revenue 23 32 53
Total Revenue of Pakka, after merger 184 291 408
Even the total revenue of Pakka Ltd. is way less than the projected revenue of YCL alone.
Also, the Moulded products division was not able to report profits even in FY2022-23, whereas it was projected that YCL would have ~16 crores of PAT in that FY.
Based on the information discussed above, it seems to me that promoters were able to get a bigger pie of Pakka ltd by valuing the YCL at exorbitantly high valuations.
Welspun India – most vertically integrated textile co (31-01-2024)
financial results for quater ended Dec 31, 2023
Reg 33 Results December 2023.pdf (1.7 MB)
Journey and Portfolio of a goal-based NEEV investor (31-01-2024)
Your first 5 points are fantastic. I will delete this shortly, but i just wanted to appreciate your write-up.
Kaveri seeds company limited — kscl (31-01-2024)
I was looking for any mention of them keeping an option to revise the buyback price one day before the record date (yet to be declared as share holder voting is currently on) but did not find it. I saw in Bajaj Auto case, they have kept this option. Any experienced person on buybacks may shed some light on it.
Disc: Bought the shares for buyback arbitrage immediately after the announcement.
Journey and Portfolio of a goal-based NEEV investor (31-01-2024)
Date: 31st January 2024 portfolio update
Quick update on my portfolio – continue to follow buy and hold strategy since deep down we all know it’s not what we do randomly that will produce long-term returns; it’s what we do consistently. So then question is what can be done consistently over long periods of time.
After many mistakes and paying high tuition fees, now I prefer to buy and hold quality franchises within reasonable valuation with growth triggers which can last for years (ideally) which top-quality management can harness to build either a moat or pivot swiftly while sustaining growth trajectory.
Below are the 5 core ideas I believe which helps me to find consistency in my thought process and actions subsequently
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at a fundamental level, earnings drive share prices over time (as an exercise check how convergent or divergent is CMP from 5y/10y profit/eps growth rate)
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only quality businesses can deliver earnings consistently in the volatile world we live in. my personal NEEV framework (consistent revenue growth, expanding OPM, higher reinvestment rate and shareholder friendly promoters) has helped in in this regard. quality is defined by key characteristics allowing businesses to grow sales and EPS at above-average rates and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future. That’s because of their generally high returns on capital and their ability to reinvest retained earnings at attractive rates and into large addressable market
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our only job is to find such businesses within one’s own circle of competence which can deliver earnings for a very long time. this process helps me to remain interested, passionate to learn and build conviction to hold over time. due to this, I avoid real estate, banking, pharma (newly added to my anti-portfolio list) etc etc
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find and buy them at reasonable valuation to it’s peers and industry to enjoy margin of safety. e.g. current PE (non-debt laden cos) or EV/EBITDA (debt laden cos) or P/B (financials) lower than 5yr or 10yr median
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hold them forever (ideally) and do nothing. we need conviction to hold them forever. conviction will only come if we understand the businesses’ products, customers, suppliers (use porter’s 5-forces model). it’s a slow and incremental process (at least for me)
Here’s my current portfolio:
Stock name | Weight % | Avg P/E | Profit / Loss % | IRR % | Action |
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MOST 100 ETF | 9.4 | 20.7 | 43% | 30.3% | |
TITAN | 8.4 | 49.4 | 101% | 29.4% | |
TIPS LIMITED | 8.3 | 20.6 | 122% | 72.3% | |
BANK BEES ETF | 7.7 | 13.8 | 24% | 16.7% | |
TATA INVEST CORP * | 7.4 | 29.0 | 202% | 166.6% | |
BAJAJ FINANCE | 7.4 | 22.5 | 35% | 13.2% | |
IRCTC | 6.8 | 28.0 | 164% | 59.0% | |
COAL INDIA * | 5.4 | 5.3 | 69% | 125.1% | |
ASIAN PAINTS | 4.8 | 47.1 | 11% | 9.3% | |
NARAYANA HEALTH * | 4.7 | 25.1 | 44% | 84.4% | |
INDIAMART | 4.6 | 51.7 | 3% | 34.5% | |
PIDILITE | 4.4 | 57.2 | 32% | 14.1% | |
TATA ELXSI | 4.0 | 34.0 | 75% | 58.4% | |
DIXON | 4.0 | 50.2 | 127% | 93.5% | |
VARUN BEVERAGES * | 3.9 | 47.8 | 73% | 59.7% | |
IEX | 3.2 | 15.1 | 156% | 17.6% | |
AMARA RAJA * | 2.6 | 13.3 | 31% | 89.7% | Added more |
WONDERLA * | 1.8 | 29.8 | -3% | – | Newly added |
PHANTOM VFX * | 1.3 | 28.3 | 23% | 37.6% |
*(asterisk) signifies <1 yr holding period.
100 invested in my portfolio vs Nifty 50 index
Investments in Jan 2024
- WONDERLA – Company has similar traits to Narayana (long term mgmt, secular growth trends, steady compounder). Also simple business to understand with manageable monitorable growth triggers (footfalls, new park additions, increase in ARPU) and excellent financial metrics with management showcasing conservative approach to growth over long term.
Exits in Jan 2024
– KRSNAA – 100% exit. While much of the triggers are yet to play out (which I am sure it will), but wanted to concentrate my healthcare investments ONLY in Narayana Healthcare. also was finding it difficult to track and measure the B2G contracts effectively
– SATIA INDUSTRIES – 100% exit. Business has given a muted performance over holding period. Also, paper is a cyclical industry and during this phase price of paper increased which put pressure on price perception. In future, CMP will go up (opportunity loss perhaps) but happy to commit type 2 error than type 1
Finally here’s my investment thesis for WONDERLA: (this is my 1st investment thesis I am sharing publicly. please help me if possible. want to do better job of this in the future, so that others can also benefit)
Business model:
WONDERLA is one of the largest Amusement Park Chains in India. It presently has 3 operational parks located at Kochi, Bengaluru and Hyderabad and 1 resort in Bengaluru. They are launching 2 new parks – one in Odisha (2024) and Chennai (hopefully by 2025).
The parks offers 2 type of attractions – land rides and water rides for 8-10 hrs (whole day) for typically family and corprates who are ready to travel 1-1.5 hrs from city to outskirts.
The primary revenue source of the company is through entry ticket fee with further sub-divisions between normal and fastrack tickets (2x cost of normal). Each park has various restaurants spread across the park which contributes around 30% of the overall revenues — rest comes from ticket sales (70%). Sources of revenues for the parks are entry fees, food & beverages (F&B), retail products, sponsorship and advertisements, resorts and other miscellaneous rentals.
Peak season for parks is the March to June and October to December months. Kids are the major target segment of amusement parks and school vacations and festivals like Diwali and Christmas are when kids would visit the parks. ARPU for Q2 FY24 increased by 9% to INR 1,440 (expecting ARPU to grow in line with inflation plus an additional 5-6%). Attracts over 3 million visitors every year (expecting footfall growth of 5-6% per year in the future).
Indian amusement park industry: The first amusement park in India was Appu Ghar opened in 1984 in Delhi. The Indian amusement park industry is 5000-6000Cr (approx) and there are 150 amusement parks in the country (Wonderla has around 10% market share) – although slightly old data. The annual footfall for the industry is 58-60 million. This is expected to grow 10-15% in the next 5 years. Parks like Wonderla, Essel World and Nicco park (been there multiple times) fall into the large park category.
Major drivers for amusement parks in India are demographic advantages
- 28.5% of the population lies in the age group of 0-15 years
- 63.40% in the 15-59 and 8.10% >60 years.
Primary investment rationale:
- rising income levels
- increase spending on tourism and leisure activities
- rising urbanization are the other factors that will lead to more people visiting amusement parks
sidenote: in 2016, I was chatting with a sr personnel from TenCent and discussing gaming and TenCent’s various media properties. I still remember, he mentioned “when people become rich, they tend towards hedonism”
What I like about the business:
- High entry barriers (in terms of buying upfront land and rides) – MOAT
- In-house manufacturing of rides (to keep costs as low as possible, visibile from the fact the Wonderla spending around Rs 350cr all inclusive to start a new park)
- multiple levers to grow revenues
- hike in ticket prices with inflation
- non-ticket revenues (F&B, over-night stay in their own resort like in BLR)
- increasing capacity utilization of the land holding in each park
- operating leverage (every percentage increase in revenue, there is scope for 2.5 times increase in profits)
- Leadership and first mover advantage as it’s promoter driven
- Unorganized to organized
- Longevity due to management’s conservation style of operating
- Negative working capital business model
What I don’t like about the business:
- One of the two core ingredients of the business is real-estate which isn’t my area of interest and is subject to regulations and litigations like Wonderla faces in HYD.
Trackable growth drivers: – Monitor the following key parameters every quarter:
- Increase in Footfalls
- Performance of New Parks
- Increase in Replacement Capex
- Hike in ticket price
- ARPU
Risk factors:
- Accidents on premise
- Land litigation (e.g. Hyderabad)
- Capital intensive nature of the business (if any park fails to garner interest, then opportunity loss of 2-3 yrs perhaps)
Valuation expectations (Jan 2024)
currently business is valued at ~30x PE which is 30% higher than 5y median PE of 23x but just below 10y media PE of 32 (so ideally this should be a 10y hold to extract value given business is simple and has imminent growth triggers).
So I am today valuing the business NTM with 20% earnings growth, then PE falls to around 24x. ideally would have loved the buy the business <20x PE but given business current and future growth triggers, I doubt if we can get it in the near future. Highest PE, business had touched is 65x PE in 2017, then COVID struck.
Sources:
- Wonderla Holidays
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7313vRmViE
- Wonderla Holidays Ltd: Fundamental Analysis – Dr Vijay Malik
- Fundamental Analysis of Wonderla Holidays Limited
Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor and nor a SEBI registered advisor. The content shared here is only for learning purposes. So please use your discretion to make any buy/sell decision and not use the above as a recommendation.
Refex Renewables & Infrastructure Ltd (31-01-2024)
About the Company:
Expertise:
- 20+ years of solar know-how: It design, build, and maintain high-quality solar power systems for homes, businesses, and everything in between.
- Distributed Energy Solutions: It is powering industries, rural communities, and small businesses with smart, adaptable energy systems.
- Harnessing the Sun’s Potential: From innovative microgrids to solar water pumps and street lighting, we’re unlocking the full potential of renewable energy.
- Waste Heat to Power: Embracing cutting-edge technologies, we’re turning wasted heat into valuable energy.
Reach:
- 8,000+ Projects Across 15+ States
- 25,000+ Installations
- 50+ Microgrids
Why I liked the company:
1. Explosive Growth: Refex is aiming for a 200+ MW capacity this year , showcasing their aggressive expansion plans.
2. Proven Track Record: Backed by the wealth-generating Refex Group , including the listed Refex Industries, Refex inherits a strong legacy of success.
3. Secure Revenue Stream: Their focus on the Indian Railways and the RESCO model guarantees a continuous revenue stream for 25 years.
4. Strategic Investments: Refex’s recent capex expansion (CWIP on screener) demonstrates their commitment to building infrastructure for future growth.
5. Gearing Up for the Next Level: The planned ₹500 crore capital raise positions Refex to fuel their ambitious expansion plans, further solidifying their future prospects.
6. Embracing Innovation: Their pilot projects in green hydrogen and other emerging technologies showcase their forward-thinking approach and readiness to adapt to the evolving energy landscape.
Valuation
While the company is valued at 600 Crore, implementing a 200 MW project using industry estimates (4.5 crores/MW) would cost nearly 900 Crore. This implies the market is valuing the company’s existing operations and future potential significantly lower than the cost of expansion.
The current valuation seems to offer an entry point lower than the cost of replicating the company’s 200 MW capacity through greenfield projects.
Risk
The company’s existing debt of 400 crore raises potential financial risk, and additional debt may be needed for working capital as they execute projects.
Disc: Invested
SETTING UP 2MW SOLAR energy generating project (31-01-2024)
Hi ,
Does any one have idea about setting up 2mw solar project in Gujarat under Gujarat government scheme …
Please share the pros and cons of the same … if anyone have any idea or have invested in such projects …