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How much do you invest each month and how much does it matter? (27-11-2023)
They call it personal finance for this very reason. Each person’s situation is different. One can have a number and move towards it, or can do it any other way, many ways to go forward. And if financialization is believed to be true, with growing retail participation, the liquidity hopefully will continue, and as such, the chance of becoming profitable can increase, so and the goal can be moved further, if everything remains the same, right from the availability of time to the desire to do it.
Math is math, but that match in finance gets customized as per our needs and wants. Some are conservative, some could be adventurous, some think they can take risk, all start at some point, they may change their styles in the future, they may not, and as our market becomes bigger, there could be more products to choose from.
Another point to ponder could be that one might get the feeling of exhaustion, and wants to take things easy, if a corpus is in place, through which cash flows are generated which can take care of everything pertaining to life, and he can concentrate on things that he like, more so, when time feels precious than the accumulated corpus.
In life and in finance, some have the fortune of reaching where they want to be, how they want to be there, and when they want to be there. Some may experience ups and downs, owning to a multitude of reasons, but if the journey progresses in a manner that is both satisfactory and beneficial, then the destination feels good and when retrospected, the journey brings a smile on the face, along with some green in the wallet.
eMudhra – building seamless digital and paperless experiences (27-11-2023)
I am an investor in eMudhra and thus biased but I am going to make a case for this company. Also I think an initiating coverage post was never made here. So here we go…
What the does the company do?
The company is in the business of providing trust in the digital world. This has manifested in various different forms but can broadly be classified between Public and Private. Public trust refers to scenarios where entities need to be authenticated over the internet, while private trust is needed where authentication is required within a private network of devices / servers.
Public Trust Solutions
- DSC: The Digital Signature Certificate is the oldest solution provided eMudhra where they behave as the Public Certificate Authority providing proof that the person signing the document is indeed the person who they claim to be.
- SSL: This is very similar for DSC, except while DSCs are made for humans, SSLs are made for websites, servers or machines.
Private Trust Solutions
- emSigner: This is eMudhra’s paperless transformation solutions where they digitize workflows of an organization along with providing secure digital tools for various approvals. The simplest example would be getting your expense approved by your boss before submitting it to finance for processing.
- emAS: This is their access management solution. It provides features like multi factor authentication and also allows restrictions to be placed on users basis their role and clearance levels. Think employees not having edit access to attendance records, while HR having it. Or Supply Chain team not having access to Marketing DBs.
- emCA: If a corporation has a large network of devices and usecases, getting them all certified by a Public CA can be expensive. Instead to ensure sercurity on their private network they may choose to set up a private CA for themselves that will manage the Certification for all devices, services, people within that network. The customer can also use this solution to become a public CA as well!
How does it earn?
The company has various business models running:
- Public Trust: Made up of SSL and DSC. Sold for a 2 year period (generally) at which point they need be renewed. These are sold via channel partners and also D2C. This is about 33% of the business.
- Paperless Transformation: Made up of emSigner. This is sold to companies on a license basis (basis number of users) and for a particular set of time (~5 years). There is an additional AMC fees associated with it which is recurring. Also license counts increase as usecases increase within the same organization. This forms 17% of the business.
- Zero Trust: Made up of emAS, emCA and some other products (e.g. emDiscovery). This is the same as emSigner in terms of business model and forms 50% of the business.
Hence, while 30% of the revenue is still coming from the DSC business, eMudhra has moved considerably away from being only dependent on that and is now in more in the space of Zero Trust security which is a much larger global theme being played out. This is a security approach where devices are not trusted even if they are part of the network and everything is authenticated. This become a preffered approach to mitigate the damage that a malicous actor can do even if they manage to compromise the security and enter the network (e.g. steal a laptop).
Total Addressable Market
- Public Trust: I am ignoring this because I don’t consider this a major growth area.
- Paperless Transformation: Generally considered a 8-10 B dollar industry growing rapidely (30%)
- Zero Trust: is a huge market, but the company has pegged the size for their products at about 15 B dollars.
Geographical Spread
eMudhra began its operations in India but quickly spread its market. We know that 45 to 50% of their business comes from abroad but country wise split has never been shared. It is reasonable to guess that currently major portion of this is coming from the Middle East, with Africa rising fast and their hope is to make US the largest market in the medium to long term.
Basis management commentary, it seems like MEA is a strong region for them and they have been present there for a while. They believe there is a lot more opportunity here to grow. However, nothing beats the scale of America.
They have been trying to make forays into the US for the last few quarters and this has been a learning curve for them. This is not to say that they have not managed anything: Management said that even this year about 60 Cr revenue should come from the US.
If and when they crack the American market, this can accelerate their top line quite significantly.
Right to Win
Their right to win is incredibly simple and powerful:
- They are cheaper compared to all their western competitors
- Are willing to work with th customers and fine tune their product for them
- Have stayed in these geographies for years and established credibility
Financial Track Record
The company has grown at 35%+ for the last few years and infact the last 3 quarters has grown at 69%, 53% and 65%. Its profit growth has not kept pace with the top line because I suspect the company has taken a conscious cost to increase BD expenses to scale faster. Their new benchmark is 30% EBITDA margins. In a couple of quarters the baseline will have adjusted and then profit growth will be in line with revenue growth.
The company is cash flow positive, no debt, and has an ROE of 22%.
Valuation
This stock is at 55 PE. If it continues to grow at 50-60% within 2 quarters it will be 30.
eMudhra – building seamless digital and paperless experiences (27-11-2023)
I am an investor in eMudhra and thus biased but I am going to make a case for this company. Also I think an initiating coverage post was never made here. So here we go…
What the does the company do?
The company is in the business of providing trust in the digital world. This has manifested in various different forms but can broadly be classified between Public and Private. Public trust refers to scenarios where entities need to be authenticated over the internet, while private trust is needed where authentication is required within a private network of devices / servers.
Public Trust Solutions
- DSC: The Digital Signature Certificate is the oldest solution provided eMudhra where they behave as the Public Certificate Authority providing proof that the person signing the document is indeed the person who they claim to be.
- SSL: This is very similar for DSC, except while DSCs are made for humans, SSLs are made for websites, servers or machines.
Private Trust Solutions
- emSigner: This is eMudhra’s paperless transformation solutions where they digitize workflows of an organization along with providing secure digital tools for various approvals. The simplest example would be getting your expense approved by your boss before submitting it to finance for processing.
- emAS: This is their access management solution. It provides features like multi factor authentication and also allows restrictions to be placed on users basis their role and clearance levels. Think employees not having edit access to attendance records, while HR having it. Or Supply Chain team not having access to Marketing DBs.
- emCA: If a corporation has a large network of devices and usecases, getting them all certified by a Public CA can be expensive. Instead to ensure sercurity on their private network they may choose to set up a private CA for themselves that will manage the Certification for all devices, services, people within that network. The customer can also use this solution to become a public CA as well!
How does it earn?
The company has various business models running:
- Public Trust: Made up of SSL and DSC. Sold for a 2 year period (generally) at which point they need be renewed. These are sold via channel partners and also D2C. This is about 33% of the business.
- Paperless Transformation: Made up of emSigner. This is sold to companies on a license basis (basis number of users) and for a particular set of time (~5 years). There is an additional AMC fees associated with it which is recurring. Also license counts increase as usecases increase within the same organization. This forms 17% of the business.
- Zero Trust: Made up of emAS, emCA and some other products (e.g. emDiscovery). This is the same as emSigner in terms of business model and forms 50% of the business.
Hence, while 30% of the revenue is still coming from the DSC business, eMudhra has moved considerably away from being only dependent on that and is now in more in the space of Zero Trust security which is a much larger global theme being played out. This is a security approach where devices are not trusted even if they are part of the network and everything is authenticated. This become a preffered approach to mitigate the damage that a malicous actor can do even if they manage to compromise the security and enter the network (e.g. steal a laptop).
Total Addressable Market
- Public Trust: I am ignoring this because I don’t consider this a major growth area.
- Paperless Transformation: Generally considered a 8-10 B dollar industry growing rapidely (30%)
- Zero Trust: is a huge market, but the company has pegged the size for their products at about 15 B dollars.
Geographical Spread
eMudhra began its operations in India but quickly spread its market. We know that 45 to 50% of their business comes from abroad but country wise split has never been shared. It is reasonable to guess that currently major portion of this is coming from the Middle East, with Africa rising fast and their hope is to make US the largest market in the medium to long term.
Basis management commentary, it seems like MEA is a strong region for them and they have been present there for a while. They believe there is a lot more opportunity here to grow. However, nothing beats the scale of America.
They have been trying to make forays into the US for the last few quarters and this has been a learning curve for them. This is not to say that they have not managed anything: Management said that even this year about 60 Cr revenue should come from the US.
If and when they crack the American market, this can accelerate their top line quite significantly.
Right to Win
Their right to win is incredibly simple and powerful:
- They are cheaper compared to all their western competitors
- Are willing to work with th customers and fine tune their product for them
- Have stayed in these geographies for years and established credibility
Financial Track Record
The company has grown at 35%+ for the last few years and infact the last 3 quarters has grown at 69%, 53% and 65%. Its profit growth has not kept pace with the top line because I suspect the company has taken a conscious cost to increase BD expenses to scale faster. Their new benchmark is 30% EBITDA margins. In a couple of quarters the baseline will have adjusted and then profit growth will be in line with revenue growth.
The company is cash flow positive, no debt, and has an ROE of 22%.
Valuation
This stock is at 55 PE. If it continues to grow at 50-60% within 2 quarters it will be 30.
How much do you invest each month and how much does it matter? (27-11-2023)
Thanks for your answer. Having a goal in mind makes planning easy, I agree. However having a goal amount also means you need to know when you need that money. If you are employed in the traditional sense, this is easy, you kind of know when you will retire and when you will need the money.
In my case, I have a goal number that I know I need but I don’t want to stop there. I am not planning on a retirement at a certain age. I am self employed, I tried retirement for a year when I was 32, I am done with the idea. I live better doing what I do.
I am sure there will be a time when my current skills are no longer valuable and / or I don’t feel like doing what I do. At that point I want this corpus to give me the opportunity to do what I want to do. I don’t know what that is today, so the goal is to maximize the corpus. It could be farming oranges, or it could be doing carpentry. We will see.
I am 35 currently, so I am taking 20 years as a safe time frame. My father and his father and his father all had plenty of energy at 55, 65, and even 75. So I am guessing I will have enough energy to pursue my projects at least until 55. If I am still alive that is.
Brand concept – New Emerging Micro cap Retailer (27-11-2023)
Could anyone in the forum who has invested in the business help me understand the moat of this businness?.After hearing the concalls I could understand that company sells goods in the premium segment and they want to become a house of brands, but currently are in the business of selling backpacks and luggages.How can the company constantly grow its revenue because I feel this is a kind of seasonal business and people wont be buying new luggages each time they go out and also good quality bags last long so it is not even a repetitive business.
How much do you invest each month and how much does it matter? (27-11-2023)
There was a time when a friend of mine used to say that he would retire if he had 4Cr corpus. I used to think that was a crazy amount. Forget 4Cr corpus, I didn’t even have 4L to my name at the time.
Many years later that friend comfortably has 4Cr+ and retirement isn’t anywhere in the horizon. A family of four, lifestyle inflation, wants and needs have all played a part.
But the thing is, I don’t look at him and his 4Cr number and think that’s crazy. You cannot comfortably retire with 4Cr today if you are living in a metro and you are in your 30’s.
Mathematically it might be possible, but I don’t think it will be comfortable.
If money = purchasing power, the moment you do not have a steady income stream the purchasing power of your money goes down (in your head or maybe it’s just my head).
Let me explain. When you have a salary, you might be happy to spend 100% of that in a month. Because you know it’s coming back on the 1st of the next month. Once you retire, nothing is coming back. So instantly the money you have is more precious. Add age, health issues and other factors in the picture and what you have will not feel enough.
So it’s more mental than what you actually need. There are people who are happy with 2L in their bank account and there are people who will not feel comfortable even with 1Cr in their bank account. It’s all in your head and it’s very personal. Nobody is right or wrong.
SBI Cards & Payment Services Limited (27-11-2023)
- From the presentation I could see that SBI cards gives around 65 percent of the cards to the age above 30 and also around 50 percent tot tier3 and others. Does this data imply that even though credit card in force might be growing but the may get a lesser revenue compared to hdfc cards.
- Also I dont find a aggresive marketing from SBI cards compared to HDFC.
- Another advantage which I find other banks like HDFC,ICICI have is majority of the people have salary account in these banks, so it might be easy to cross sell compared to SBI.
(Disc: Not invested , reading about the company).
Pennar Industries Limited (27-11-2023)
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Linc Ltd: Writing the future of Bharat (27-11-2023)
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