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Valuepickr goes Europe (14-01-2024)
RBI wants banks to ditch some funds… But it shares zero data and shows zero awareness of just how difficult it would be for banks to follow its new guidelines (14-01-2024)
One problem that banks face is that sometimes they lend to people or companies that don’t pay them back. This causes two problems:
- The banks lose money! Of course.
- The banks can lend less in the future. A mistake now doesn’t just affect the money the bank makes today but also the money the bank can potentially make in the future.
Problem (1) is straightforward and the consequences for the bank are direct. In some sense, the consequences are also acceptable for the bank. It made a bet that didn’t work out so it lost money. Problem (2) though is partially the result of regulation. If a bank makes a loan that goes bad, it has to then put the same amount of money in a vault that it can’t touch and give it a fancy name (“provisions”). [1]
From a regulatory point of view, this is important! You have to ensure that banks don’t make too many bad loans and if they do, they compensate for it by “cancelling out” those bad loans by keeping money in this vault. From the bank’s point of view though, this is annoying. Sure, it made a bad loan. But any money it keeps in this vault is money it isn’t able to lend out and make more money with. It would’ve been nice if a bank could just ignore its bad loans instead always be in the pursuit of making more money from more loans.
I’m obviously slightly exaggerating here and making banks look like a bunch of whiny children trying to avoid facing the consequences of their actions. But my larger point is that risk assessment is a result of both bank policy and regulatory policy. Both expect bad loans to happen and there’s a constant push and pull about stuff like just how many bad loans are okay, when exactly does a loan count as a bad loan, how much money should be put into that vault (if at all), etc. India’s banks and its regulator, RBI, which has always been relatively conservative, have sort of lived alongside this.
But, of course, not everyone likes to be conservative. Some banks, NBFCs, and other financial institutions might prefer not listening to the RBI and might look for workarounds. Here’s one:
- A bank realises that a loan that it made is about to go bad
- Instead of putting money into a vault, the bank invests this money into an external fund.
- This fund then invests this money into the borrower company that didn’t repay the initial loan in the first place.
- This borrower then uses that money to “repay” the bank. So the bad loan doesn’t really look like a bad loan.
This magically solves both problems (1) and (2) for the bank that I mentioned earlier. Technically, the bank didn’t lose any money because it did get repaid. And it also didn’t have to keep money sitting in a vault and was able to lend (or invest) it and earn more interest.
But of course this doesn’t really solve the problem. If the borrower is unable to repay the original loan in time, lending more money to them might not be the brightest idea. [2] Last month, on the cusp of the new year, RBI decided that this is a problem that needs to be solved. From RBI:
In order to address concerns relating to possible evergreening through this route, it is advised as under:
(i) REs shall not make investments in any scheme of AIFs which has downstream investments either directly or indirectly in a debtor company of the RE.
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(ii) If an AIF scheme, in which RE is already an investor, makes a downstream investment in any such debtor company, then the RE shall liquidate its investment in the scheme within 30 days from the date of such downstream investment by the AIF. If REs have already invested into such schemes having downstream investment in their debtor companies as on date, the 30-day period for liquidation shall be counted from date of issuance of this circular. REs shall forthwith arrange to advise the AIFs suitably in the matter.
(iii) In case REs are not able to liquidate their investments within the above-prescribed time limit, they shall make 100 percent provision on such investments.
If a bank or NBFC has lent money to a company, RBI says that it should not invest in a fund that invests in the same company. Or if the bank or NBFC is already an investor in a fund and the fund later invests in a company that has borrowed from that bank, the bank has to sell off its investment in that fund.
There are so many problems! For one, the lending arm of a bank should not be deciding where the investing arm puts its money. If you’re the person deciding where to invest for the bank, you don’t want to be blocked out because the fund that you’re interested in has 2% of its portfolio in a company that someone else in your bank decided to also lend to.
It’s worse when a bank or NBFC is already an investor in a fund. The funds that RBI is targeting here, alternative investment funds (AIFs), are risky and competitive. These include venture capital funds that invest in startups, private equity funds that invest in mature companies, or hedge funds that might be trading stocks. If you’re a fund manager that decides to invest in a company… are you going to check with your bank investors if they have already lent to this company? Or are your bank investors going to share a list of the companies they have already lent to so that you can avoid them? [3] Are you going to allow someone else to dictate where you can and can’t invest the money you’re managing?
Of course, if you’re this fund manager, RBI isn’t restricting you from investing wherever you like. But if you know you have bank or NBFC investors in your fund, and that they would be forced to sell, you don’t want them writing angry emails to you and selling off their holdings in the market. That would be bad! So you might prefer checking beforehand, or even better, getting rid of them as investors entirely.
Oh and this assumes that the bank or NBFC can even sell its holdings in the market. AIFs come with long lock-in periods, so its investors can’t just sell and move on (venture capital funds usually have 10 year lock-ins). RBI doesn’t seem to care.
It would’ve helped if RBI had also backed up its decision with some kind of data. “80% of all AIF investments by banks which have downstream investments in companies the banks have lent to are attempts at evergreening,” it might have said. And penalised some of those banks. It would still not have made complete sense to disallow these investments entirely but one could’ve empathised.
But RBI is choosing to complicate lending for banks and investing for AIFs without giving a single example of just how bad the problem that it’s trying to solve is in the first place.
Footnotes
[1] Not always! The amount of money that a bank will have to provision for a bad loan (that is, keep in the vault) will depend on the ratio of good loans to bad loans as well as how much money the bank has already provisioned (provision coverage ratio).
[2] I think the converse holds true too. If a bank lends to a company that is a good borrower and is repaying the bank in time, the bank might actually want to invest in the company via fund. It has already done some due diligence and it’s working out!
[3] No, they won’t. This is confidential information.
Avanti Feeds (14-01-2024)
Couldnt this be a major threat for companies who are into shrimp farmings, unorganized market share will eventually increase if ban is lifted by US.
Difference in wild and farmed shrimps, source Quora
wild shrimps
Wild caught shrimp are superior in every way…the meat is firmer because they live in a world where water currents are a fact of life, where they eat the natural diet of their species and they are in an environment with no physical boundaries. The taste is also better for those same reasons. Interestingly, wild shrimp cook up with more colour than their farmed relatives due to their natural diet vs pelletized shrimp food.
Farmed shrimps
They are also absolutely fresh in my market but they are just not as good as their wild caught cousins. The colour is pale, the meat is not quite as firm and the taste less intense.
Although, Wild caught shrimp are more expensive
Ranvir’s Portfolio (14-01-2024)
Many tks for preparing excellent notes with good data points.
Keep up the good work.
Telecom products – A way to play 5G, IOT, drones, connected cars, smart transport opportunity (14-01-2024)
I am not an industry expert, but I am enthusiastic about network products. The telecom market is currently undergoing a shift from Cable/DSL to Fiber/5G-FWA. Let’s take a (over)simplified look at the pros and cons of both technologies:
5G Fixed Wireless Access (FWA):
- Pros: Easy deployment in 5G-covered areas, no need for aerial or underground cabling, suitable for rural areas lacking broadband infrastructure.
- Cons: Limited upload and download performance based on spectrum, capacity and speed limitations due to competition for cellular network bandwidth.
Fiber-Optic Broadband:
- Pros: High-speed and reliable performance, symmetrical upload and download speeds, future upgradeability with modular components.
- Cons: High deployment cost, particularly in areas with lower population density, leading to longer time for financial breakeven and challenges in achieving positive average revenue per user (ARPU).
Navigating the tech world is inherently challenging when making predictions. The landscape often takes unexpected turns, and hindsight can make even the most informed forecasts seem off. Yet, I believe an equilibrium will emerge once the initial hype settles down, as there are complementary use cases for both technologies. Fiber will remain the optimal choice in areas suitable for cost-effective deployment, while 5G FWA will become a logical choice for challenging areas with lower population densities. The ones to lose in this battle will be the cable/DSL internet companies.
Amidst these developments, another emerging solution is gaining traction: Satellite Internet. Unlike 5G FWA, which relies on fiber-connected cell towers, Satellite Internet stands out as a genuinely wireless solution. It transmits and receives data via satellites. Use case for this service was extremely limited. It was useful only in areas, where there is no other option – deserts, inhabited land, surface affected by some extreme event (war, hurricane, flooding, etc.) – because of poor latency and high cost. Since 2014, new satellite internet constellations are being deployed in low-earth orbit (LEO, below ~2000km) to enable low-latency internet access from space. Today, in 2024, Elon Musk’s Starlink provides slightly better downlink speed and slightly worse latency as compared to 5G network. The future relationship between 5G and Satellite Internet is uncertain – whether they become competitors or collaborators. Examples of collaboration include Omnispace’s vision to build a 5G non-terrestrial network and T-Mobile’s vision to connect with Starlink, while instances of competition involve challenges to 5G access in the 12GHz network. The dynamics of this interplay will likely shape the future of connectivity.
Another crucial aspect of these network technology stacks is this: Fiber and Satellite operate independently, while 5G FWA relies on a backbone, whether it be fiber or satellite. Ultimately, I think everything is better together – a world where a 5G network is seamlessly integrated with the backbone support of both Fiber and Satellite connectivity.
Ronak’s Portfolio – building it slowly (14-01-2024)
What about LT foods? Its numbers are better than KRBL and seems better placed as major business is exports. Just one query: Reason for fall from Rs.90 to Rs.19 between Jan 2018 to Aug 2019? What happened during this time to have such a steep fall? Also ROCE is less than 20…But at 15 and increasing trend.
Dollar Industries ltd – Fit Hai Boss (14-01-2024)
Hey @Chins
Thank you for sharing your insights. I also spoke my relatives who are in the garments business. Sharing it for everyone’s benefit.
Profile: They are from Himachal. They arent directly into innerwear business. They are into women’s designer wear, particularly clothes for marriage. They also sell Sleepwell mattresses. The only product line that is close to Dollar is leggings, which they sell from Lux.
Below is their verbatim response.
- Sleepwell is also going in within similar model to remove distributors. Currently distributors take care of the retailer. In case of any issues, distributors can fight with the company, but retailers wont be able to do that.
- Such models dont work because often retailers run out of the product, it is not replenished.
- In old model, Company gets money from Distributors, but without that, company will be exposed to the risk of default from retailers.
- Lux leggings are highly in demand and sell very rapidly. He says, Lux has much more variety that Dollar. If Dollar has 50 colors, Lux will have 200. Quality of Lux is also better. They dont sell Dollar products.
Disclosure: Hold a small tracking position for now.
Sky Gold ltd. – Will it reach the sky? (14-01-2024)
Great to see some good research on this stock.
Quite a few Marquee investors have entered the stock via preferential allotment . Including Ashish kacholia at the price of 412 .
At 5,000 cr sale at 5 % profit will result in operating profits will go to 250 cr yearly, net profit around 220 cr .At a PE of 20 the stock should be trading at around 4500 market capitalization in 2-3 years .
The question is what PE should be given to such a company , if it can grow consistently even after 2-3 years that above 25 % + and is indicating a secular trend like the jewellery retails , market can give this company a PE of 30 or 40 also .At those PE market valuations should be closer to 6500 or 8500 cr once they achieve yearly net profit of 200-220 cr.
I don’t believe PE of 70 or 80 makes sense like the retail jewellery companies as companies like sky gold are way down the value chain , have limited moats and limited pricing power .
There are still areas and ways in which the management can increase their margin in the future as well as accelerate growth of revenues . The money raised from the preferential allotment will be used in the coming year for those purposes too .
A current risk is the swift rise of the share price which has happened in the past months, if Q3 results disappoint due to whatever reason or any bad news , the stock can correct drastically to 750 levels .
Invested from Rs 300 level in the stock .
Techno electric engg ltd (14-01-2024)
FY26 guidance
Revenue : 3000cr
Profit : 500cr+
FY24 revenue guidance 1800cr
In 765 kv power segment, techno electric has market share of 50-60%
5000cr order book
Out of which 1000cr will be executed in this and next quarter
Expecting another order of 1500cr in near future
So should end this FY with 5000-5500cr order backlog
Techno Electric Bags Orders Worth ₹1,750 Cr | PP Gupta Discusses | Business News
Red Tape Ltd. – The next fashion giant? (14-01-2024)
Mutual Funds add another 4,50,000 shares of Redtape in December taking MF’s holding to over 7%
Stock Name:Redtape Ltd. | As on 31-Dec-23 | ||||||
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Sector | No. of Funds | No. of Shares | No. of Shares | No. of Shares | No. of Shares | ||
`Dec-23 | `Nov-23 | `Oct-23 | `Sep-23 | ||||
Retail and Other Services | 4 | 9917648 | 9464712 | 8704612 | 8719739 | ||
`Fund Name | `Fund Manager | `Dec-23 | `Dec-23 | `Dec-23 | `Nov-23 | `Oct-23 | `Sep-23 |
AUM (in Rs. cr) | % of AUM | No. of Shares | No. of Shares | No. of Shares | No. of Shares | ||
HDFC Small Cap Fund-Reg(G) | Chirag Setalvad | 26837 | 0.98 | 5604028 | 5604028 | 5604028 | 5604028 |
ICICI Pru Flexicap Fund(G) | Rajat Chandak | 13525.1 | 1.49 | 4275740 | 3822804 | 3084474 | 3099601 |
ICICI Pru LT Wealth Enhancement Fund(G) | Rajat Chandak | 37.1 | 2.76 | 21770 | 21770 | 0 | 0 |
ICICI Pru Retirement Fund-Pure Equity Plan(G) | Lalit Kumar | 484.1 | 0.16 | 16110 | 16110 | 16110 | 16110 |