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Traders on Dalal Street Debate Need For Verification Of MTM Gains Even While One Trader-Trainer Is Allegedly Caught With Screenshot Of Bogus MTM Gain



Though a top trader-trainer is alleged to have posted a screenshot of bogus MTM gains to lure people, the concept of verification of screenshots of MTM gains by Sensibull has sharply divided Dalal Street. While many top traders are willingly getting their screenshots verified, other top traders are vehemently opposed to the concept

Verified screenshots of MTM gains

Abid Hassan, the CEO and co-founder of Sensibull, rightly pointed out that the practice of some unscrupulous traders on Dalal Street of posting bogus screenshots of MTM gains with a view to attract people to join their paid service is a big menace.

In fact, a recent episode is about a popular trader-cum-trainer named Vikram Prabhu who allegedly posted a screenshot showing that he had traded an order of 1000 units of the Bank Nifty, which is not possible as the freeze limit is recently reduced to 900 units from 1200 units. It appears that the person had lost sight of the reduced order size whilst preparing the screenshot. He deleted the tweet immediately after being questioned and has also so far not posted any clarification as to how the fiasco happened.

Prima facie, the practice of posting bogus MTM screenshots appears to be very profitable because this particular trader-trainer is alleged to have collected fees in tens of crore for his training programmes.

Anyway, to counter this menace, Sensibull has launched a platform to enable traders to get their screenshots verified as being genuine.

Noted trader Manu Bhatia was amongst the first to avail the facility. He disclosed an income of Rs. 66 Lakh which he earned on the expiry day of 24th November. A study of the screenshot shows that the Nifty trades yielded a gain of Rs 68.33 Lakh while the Bank Nifty trades resulted in a loss of Rs 2.21 Lakh.

In the Nifty, one trade, possibly a Bull-Call spread of 18200-18400CE, yielded a mammoth gain of Rs 64 lakh.

In the Bank Nifty, Bhatia appears to have traded a short straddle of 42800 and 42900. While the 42900 straddle yielded a gain, the 42800 straddle resulted in a loss.

Bhatia has not revealed the capital deployed in the trades.

Rs 50 lakh from bearish trades in bullish market

A trader named Ashesh Mehta appears to be a contrarian. He bought Puts when he sensed that the market had topped and earned a handsome profit of Rs 50.82 Lakh.

A study of his verified screenshot reveals that he made Rs 48.81 lakh from the Bank Nifty and Rs 2.01 lakh from the Nifty.

He revealed that his capital is Rs 7 crore which means that his RoI is about 7%.

A trader named Kumar Arpit with the nickname ‘Ketofol‘ disclosed a profit of Rs 10.97 lakh. A study of the screenshot shows that he has made bullish bets on several stocks like Reliance, Axis Bank, Hero Moto etc.

However, in fairness, the same trader also disclosed that he suffered a loss of Rs 18.81 lakh on purchase of the Reliance Call Options.

Some traders are opposed to verification

Noted options trader PR Sundar is vehemently opposed to the concept of verification of his MTM gains. He alleged that even verified screenshots can be manipulated with the connivance of the verifying agency and third parties.

A 25-year old trader-trainer named Aditya Trivedi made it clear that he will not get his screenshots verified. He stated that he is averse to his open positions being revealed and that the live trading he does with his members is the “biggest verification“.

“We don’t need sensibull’s verification to prove ourselves,” he stated in a defiant manner.

Trivedi has claimed to have earned a return of 8.5% in November 2022.

This sentiment was agreed to by another young and popular trader named Aakansha Gupta, who regularly posts MTM gains of several lakhs. She is apprehensive that her personal details can be breached. She agreed with Trivedi that trading skills as witnessed in the live market by her clients is the “biggest verification“.

However, Abid Hassan is equally defiant about the need for verification. He alleged that only scammers are afraid of getting their screenshots verified because it will expose their “scammy tipster activities” .

He also asserted that “Verified P&L MUST become the norm“.

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